
countrygrammar
Favorite team: | Missouri ![]() |
Location: | Ohio |
Biography: | Work in Ohio(previously Alabama), Home and Heart are in Missouri |
Interests: | Football, BBQ, and good times |
Occupation: | Engineer |
Number of Posts: | 394 |
Registered on: | 10/2/2013 |
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re: predict the remaining half
Posted by countrygrammar on 10/16/22 at 1:26 pm
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3 years is plenty of time.
I think patience is a virtue, but the reality is we may be looking at our future. In this environment of the transfer portal, with a coach in his third year who has out recruited everyone but UGA in his division over the last two years, fans should expect something big.
We are debating the feel good moments of almost while our peers with coaches in their first two/three years are doing the minimum like winning on the road against FBS teams or the big like knocking off top 5 teams.
So the expectation is to take what you have and find a way to win 6 games period. You got your preseason excused guaranteed L out the way with UGA already. The mentality should be 6-0.
re: Fan Apathy - No Passion
Posted by countrygrammar on 10/7/21 at 10:03 am
You can’t control how one handles or engages any situation in life, social media may have gave this a larger platform but this has been a truth for a long time.
One thing I do think through that you highlighted with kids thinking about what school they will attend is the overall experience. It is something that matters. So it puts us in a precarious situation. The big names and higher rated players are comparing environments at SEC venues that are packed to capacity with a defined home field advantage versus what we currently are showing.
It sucks because it’s a chicken and egg situation. We don’t have a good product so you are asking a lot for fans to commit financially and emotionally, but without the environment we are costing the potential future of the program by what we currently display. It also doesn’t help when the announcers also highlight how quiet or underwhelming our stadium is to potential recruits who are not even physically there.
One thing I do think through that you highlighted with kids thinking about what school they will attend is the overall experience. It is something that matters. So it puts us in a precarious situation. The big names and higher rated players are comparing environments at SEC venues that are packed to capacity with a defined home field advantage versus what we currently are showing.
It sucks because it’s a chicken and egg situation. We don’t have a good product so you are asking a lot for fans to commit financially and emotionally, but without the environment we are costing the potential future of the program by what we currently display. It also doesn’t help when the announcers also highlight how quiet or underwhelming our stadium is to potential recruits who are not even physically there.
re: Mizzou vs Tennessee
Posted by countrygrammar on 10/2/21 at 1:46 pm
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Mizzou vs Tennessee by the808bass
That would be a hilarious take if you put it as a white kid.
“My kid from West Plains is only around white kids. How are you going to meet his unique emotions and social-cultural needs?”
Hilarious.
Since I am being real.
This will be my last reply, and you think that’s hilarious, but in a locker room or hell across a lot of other scenarios, there is an acclimation and culture shock for everyone who lives in siloed communities.
So that kid from white plains, yes, coaches and others help that kid navigate environments they are not accustomed to.
re: Mizzou vs Tennessee
Posted by countrygrammar on 10/2/21 at 1:40 pm
My point is Drink does not have an issue at all with race. My point is that Mizzou handled the stuff around 2015 in a positive manner. I responded to the first post about the protest being an issue. My response just highlighted the why on how it was handled was important.
re: Mizzou vs Tennessee
Posted by countrygrammar on 10/2/21 at 1:12 pm
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Glad you played the race card bc that was needed
That wasn’t a “woke” take or whatever you want to call it. That’s just facts.
In some cases you are recruiting black kids who have no real substantive interactions with other races based on circumstance or location. Similarly to predominantly white or Hispanic areas in this country. Only difference is they will now be put into a situation they have no idea how to navigate.
Whether it’s Kirby going into SWAT’s, Saban going into Finley or Maysville in AL, or Drink on the East Side/ North Side of STL, when they pull up for that home visit and the matriarch or patriarch of the family asks “Will you take care of my boy?”, a black kid who is probably 15 or 16 when you start recruiting them, what does a coach do or say? What examples does he lean on to show if you give me your 4 or 5 star talent that yes I practice what I preach?
Hate him or not, Pinkel and Ivey both did that and that speaks volumes. Now meeting other needs that those kids and their families may want or need, we can’t and don’t compete with the top half SEC teams to close the deal. We put it on coaches a lot, which is a big part, but sometimes the other variables keeps up where we at.
re: Mizzou vs Tennessee
Posted by countrygrammar on 10/2/21 at 12:30 pm
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Everything that Pinkle built was destroyed by that 2015 team
That’s just not true. In a sport that is predominantly black with parents that had certain concerns, his stance helped reinforce a commitment to those kids. I have heard that from many black players.
If we want to be real, then let’s be real. We had a recruiting problem that after transitioning to the SEC has further hurt us. Because of our “support”, which goes past fans but to the donors and other things needed to pull recruits, coaching talent coming to Mizzou has been an issue.
After the rebuilds at the top SEC programs, does Pinkel fields a consistent 7 win team with breaks to get to 10 in the last 7 years, probably, would that be the ceiling under him? That’s a resounding yes.
What Drinkwitz can potentially do is groundbreaking to push this program to where it needs to go. On the other hand, he is showing a glaring problem for a head coach. I understand lack of talent and recognize we don’t have horses, but what you see on defense is inexcusable. I don’t care we lost people to the portal and etc. You are facing a Tennessee team who has every similar excuse but you have a head coach who has successfully navigate respectability to some extent. As a SEC team, there is no excuse to be this bad and that’s on Drink.
re: We’re a Minimum of Two Years Away
Posted by countrygrammar on 9/25/21 at 3:54 pm
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Agree…. However, look at their recruiting rankings from 2017-2020…. Both programs were top 20-30 for the most part. Mizzou has consistently been in the 40’s.
I get that. But we are talking about losing to programs with worst recruiting numbers like BC. I get the lack of talent and understand the need to build, but teams are literally running the ball down our throats. Say what you want about BO, but we would at least be able to be competitive at stopping the run through scheme.
re: We’re a Minimum of Two Years Away
Posted by countrygrammar on 9/25/21 at 2:49 pm
Tougher to hear when you see what Arkansas and Ole Miss is doing with their second year coaches
re: 2022 Football recruiting
Posted by countrygrammar on 1/17/21 at 9:37 pm
Would be wild to see Ford commit to us on a Notre Dame blog YouTube channel.
Could only imagine the national and social media attention Drink and the program receives...
Could only imagine the national and social media attention Drink and the program receives...
re: Mississippi State Predictions?
Posted by countrygrammar on 12/19/20 at 4:28 pm
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In a perfect world I think this is the answer. Part of me worries Ryan W. will maintain his man principles and we get beat with Leach’s crossing/man beating routes.
Mississippi State man beater concepts are killing us. I’m surprised Ryan is playing this much man when we know what causes the trouble.
re: Mississippi State Predictions?
Posted by countrygrammar on 12/14/20 at 4:00 pm
In a perfect world I think this is the answer. Part of me worries Ryan W. will maintain his man principles and we get beat with Leach’s crossing/man beating routes.
Georgia tried to install zone the week of but you saw they were exposed in both zone and man concepts against MSU.
I still see us winning 30-10 but it gets a little worrisome if MSU scores two first half TD’s. They have a tough defense and working to score can get difficult if they are in the game.
Georgia tried to install zone the week of but you saw they were exposed in both zone and man concepts against MSU.
I still see us winning 30-10 but it gets a little worrisome if MSU scores two first half TD’s. They have a tough defense and working to score can get difficult if they are in the game.
Today is tough but brighter days ahead
Posted by countrygrammar on 12/12/20 at 1:46 pm
Hard to consistently compete with the top three teams in this league (Bama, UGA, Florida) without closing the talent gap.
Those teams have dudes. We slowly starting to get dudes where it matters to be the squad we all want to see.
I hope with Drink/Walters playing three freshmen in the secondary, it helps for the future.
Those teams have dudes. We slowly starting to get dudes where it matters to be the squad we all want to see.
I hope with Drink/Walters playing three freshmen in the secondary, it helps for the future.
re: Basketball Recruiting Thread
Posted by countrygrammar on 2/25/20 at 1:08 pm
Results alone ain’t it. It’s the brand on your feet, the environment you play in, and the players you got coming with you.
Talk to young men today and it’s about building their brand and getting better to achieve long term goals.
We are missing two of the three things I said above, and it’s like a chicken and egg situation. Fans want and need success/players to feel energized. Players need that environment and one player to make that jump so they can pair up.
Talk to young men today and it’s about building their brand and getting better to achieve long term goals.
We are missing two of the three things I said above, and it’s like a chicken and egg situation. Fans want and need success/players to feel energized. Players need that environment and one player to make that jump so they can pair up.
re: Basketball Recruiting Thread
Posted by countrygrammar on 2/25/20 at 8:00 am
Sometimes we have to take a look at all of the factors which encompasses recruiting. With a defense first mindset he was able to convince Jaylen Brown to travel from Georgia all the way to Berkeley and pair him with Ivan Rabb.
From what I hear, top prospects love what Cuonzo is about. His biggest issue is pairing players together that want to compete. So having a top 10 prospect love you is one thing, having that prospect know he will be on the floor with other talented individuals is another.
Like Cal with Rabb, he needs another player to step out on faith like the Porters which gets you the ability to sign other consensus top players in a class.
From what I hear, top prospects love what Cuonzo is about. His biggest issue is pairing players together that want to compete. So having a top 10 prospect love you is one thing, having that prospect know he will be on the floor with other talented individuals is another.
Like Cal with Rabb, he needs another player to step out on faith like the Porters which gets you the ability to sign other consensus top players in a class.
re: Post your defense of this performance here
Posted by countrygrammar on 10/19/19 at 6:50 pm
Not looking to fire anyone. Just about to grab another drink and transition to watching some other teams play.
I am disappointed because I look at CFP at a macro level and I am blessed enough to have limited insights into multiple programs. This loss hurts because it keeps us on the same space.
We started the season with some national recognition. They could talk about our easy schedule on ESPN, but they recognized we had a few horses to get us to a top 10 ranking and a 8-0 record. So when that 4 star athlete is spending his time looking at programs, the ability to compete and have national recognition is on display. Odom’s pitch of championships is actually something that is within reach and this class can be the savior of a program who consistently gets shitted on in recruiting by other tier 1 and 2 programs.
After Wyoming we were in the C-block or not discussed at all on most college programming. We lose two recruits who can impact our program with high level visibility with other potential recruits and all of our wins now have asterisks. We fight through and get that top 25 ranking just to shite the bed.
There is no positive perception outside of Columbia. That hurts at a macro level. Yea we can recognize where we came from, but that shite don’t matter. It’s a reason teams like us and Wisconsin loses to unranked teams year after year. We have to be perfect in so many aspects, until we catch up athletically and unfortunately we continue to help maintain the big picture narrative which drives away the success we want to see.
I am disappointed because I look at CFP at a macro level and I am blessed enough to have limited insights into multiple programs. This loss hurts because it keeps us on the same space.
We started the season with some national recognition. They could talk about our easy schedule on ESPN, but they recognized we had a few horses to get us to a top 10 ranking and a 8-0 record. So when that 4 star athlete is spending his time looking at programs, the ability to compete and have national recognition is on display. Odom’s pitch of championships is actually something that is within reach and this class can be the savior of a program who consistently gets shitted on in recruiting by other tier 1 and 2 programs.
After Wyoming we were in the C-block or not discussed at all on most college programming. We lose two recruits who can impact our program with high level visibility with other potential recruits and all of our wins now have asterisks. We fight through and get that top 25 ranking just to shite the bed.
There is no positive perception outside of Columbia. That hurts at a macro level. Yea we can recognize where we came from, but that shite don’t matter. It’s a reason teams like us and Wisconsin loses to unranked teams year after year. We have to be perfect in so many aspects, until we catch up athletically and unfortunately we continue to help maintain the big picture narrative which drives away the success we want to see.
re: Thoughts on the Oline?
Posted by countrygrammar on 10/7/19 at 7:59 am
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They allowed the worst passing offense in the PAC12 to throw for 357 yds and 4 TDs.
This!!!
We should win by 17-20
re: Props to Team and Staff
Posted by countrygrammar on 9/7/19 at 8:56 pm
Good win because this could have went sideways otherwise...
re: You can't overcome the Wyoming loss in today's environment without long term consequences
Posted by countrygrammar on 9/2/19 at 10:24 am
I get the short term picture. This could still be a "successful" season with 9 wins.
I am trying to recognize the long term disadvantages associated with this loss.
- No positive airtime during "College Football Live" or other ESPN shows. This impacts fans expectations and overall perspective across other fan bases and recruits
- The narrative of us being good and beating teams like South Carolina during week three can be shifted as two average/bad teams playing each other
- Recruiting impact to get the Doyle's and Mannings back in the fold against other bigger programs as we show no real progress. In the end we can get to November without beating a team with a winning record, again.
I am trying to recognize the long term disadvantages associated with this loss.
- No positive airtime during "College Football Live" or other ESPN shows. This impacts fans expectations and overall perspective across other fan bases and recruits
- The narrative of us being good and beating teams like South Carolina during week three can be shifted as two average/bad teams playing each other
- Recruiting impact to get the Doyle's and Mannings back in the fold against other bigger programs as we show no real progress. In the end we can get to November without beating a team with a winning record, again.
re: You can't overcome the Wyoming loss in today's environment without long term consequences
Posted by countrygrammar on 9/2/19 at 9:29 am
Future success is determined by talent and developing that talent.
Leach is a good coach but has taken advantage of a conference that has taken a nose dive, just look at Pac 12 teams on the line of scrimmage. Virginia Tech still had a full 6 months for recruiting after that loss, we only realistically have 2 months to retain and attract talent.
8 wins with losses to Georgia, Florida, USC, and Kentucky does not help achieve the future championship aspirations Barry Odom has set as a precedent.
Leach is a good coach but has taken advantage of a conference that has taken a nose dive, just look at Pac 12 teams on the line of scrimmage. Virginia Tech still had a full 6 months for recruiting after that loss, we only realistically have 2 months to retain and attract talent.
8 wins with losses to Georgia, Florida, USC, and Kentucky does not help achieve the future championship aspirations Barry Odom has set as a precedent.
You can't overcome the Wyoming loss in today's environment without long term consequences
Posted by countrygrammar on 9/2/19 at 8:51 am
This is what Odom was building towards from 2016-2018.
- There was a national narrative that had us as the second best team in the east, ready to compete with UGA after an 8-0 start.
- We had all eyes on us with Kelly choosing the Mizzou Tigers over an Auburn team who would be in the opening weekend spotlight.
- The national media following our team closely to see if we really were ready to compete so they can follow this years Kentucky stroryline from the beginning.
Its all gone. We had momentum that could help with recruiting and overall fan enthusiasm that came to a halt. With a December signing day at play, this loss does nothing but hurts the narrative of a coach installing a process and culture of winning and working towards competing for championships as our coach states when he is in front of a microphone.
If you are a 4 star recruit, why come here? You don't play in any marquee out of conference games for national exposure and you have a coach who has a record of 2-17 against winning FBS programs.
- There was a national narrative that had us as the second best team in the east, ready to compete with UGA after an 8-0 start.
- We had all eyes on us with Kelly choosing the Mizzou Tigers over an Auburn team who would be in the opening weekend spotlight.
- The national media following our team closely to see if we really were ready to compete so they can follow this years Kentucky stroryline from the beginning.
Its all gone. We had momentum that could help with recruiting and overall fan enthusiasm that came to a halt. With a December signing day at play, this loss does nothing but hurts the narrative of a coach installing a process and culture of winning and working towards competing for championships as our coach states when he is in front of a microphone.
If you are a 4 star recruit, why come here? You don't play in any marquee out of conference games for national exposure and you have a coach who has a record of 2-17 against winning FBS programs.
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