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re: I’m back (UPDATE: Added observations from Spring Practice last week in thread)

Posted on 3/31/19 at 6:56 am to
Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 6:56 am to
I really enjoy coming to a thread knowing I'll get to read several 10 paragraph post from straws about how trask out performs Frank's every day of every week of every month of every year and yet Frank's is still the starter

Kind of tells me that the coaches know alot more than straws does.

Straws just one question have you been too one practice through this whole trask / Franks rivalry / starter discussion or just look at stats
Posted by real_gator8
Redington Shores
Member since Mar 2019
961 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:30 pm to
Most of those stats are throwing on air. He may reply now to this...but he wont answer your question whether he has been to ANY practices.

It all started back in spring of last year the our QB guru proclaimed that Trask would be named the starter for 2018. As spring ended and it started becoming obvious that Franks a leader in the locker room and fall camp sealed it. Our gurus feelings were hurt and he pouted and started lashing out at Franks at every opportunity. Rather child like.

He had to begrudgingly give Franks some cred after season end....but just remember he is the same person who called Franks a retarded puppy. Nice, huh? Again, Straw...answer the question regarding attending practices ??
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Straws just one question have you been too one practice through this whole trask / Franks rivalry / starter discussion or just look at stats


One question: Does everyone here really think that how someone practices is more indicative than how someone performs?

There are players who perform better but don't practice well, there are also players who practice lights out but fail when the pressure is on them.

Every single time when there was a head to head challenge, Trask has outperformed Franks.

quote:

Kind of tells me that the coaches know alot more than straws does.


Whew lad, wish you were around when reel was saying the exact same thing as you were but about McElwain. So was I.

Of course Mullen has forgotten more than I will ever know, but to think that he doesn't have an ego is silly. Talk to Mississippi State fans who knew that Prescott was better than Tyler Russell but it took a Concussion and on-field results for him to yank the guy.

If Spurrier was here, there's no way Franks survives Kentucky, and even less Colorado State. Mullen picks a guy and goes with him, but that's a lot more to do with philosophy rather than whether a guy is better than someone else.

Trask beats Franks in almost every single head-to-head competition, including the Missouri game.

Opening Scrimmage 2018: Trask by a mile.
Spring Game 2018: Trask by a mile, especially when you look at where the completions were made.
Mid-camp Scrimmage 2018: Closed* scrimmage, staff says Franks won.
Fall Scrimmage: Trask beat Franks.
Missouri 2018: Trask beat Franks in literally every passing category.
Opening Scrimmage 2019: Trask beat Franks, even if by a little.

Keep in mind, in the Mullen era, there has only been one time Trask has lost to Franks and that was a closed scrimmage (lol, convenient).

This is what I posted before, so pay attention:

Mullen and I want different things from the QB position. I like mature guys, and while Trask doesn't run as well, I think his mentality is far less toxic than Franks'. It's nice that Franks can run, but he isn't such a great runner that it makes up for his absolutely horrendous qualities as a passer.

I would much rather just use Trask as a bandaid this year, especially with an inexperienced OL, because I know he can throw accurately and hit wide open guys. His one touchdown pass in the Mizzou game he was literally getting blitzed, didn't set his feet and threw it directly into the hands of his receiver.

Both of his touchdown passes at scrimmage were in the Red Zone.

My qualm is a difference in philosophy, not an indictment on Mullen as a coach.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 1:48 pm to
And just because we have the two people least capable of reading this, the tl;dr:

Do on-field results matter more than practicing or not? Thank you for your time.
Posted by real_gator8
Redington Shores
Member since Mar 2019
961 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 2:22 pm to
Albino, there is your answer, non answer. No, he hasn't attended any practices.


Gurus don't need to do that. Their superior knowledge will allow them adequate decision making.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 3:00 pm to
Just because it's an answer you don't like doesn't mean it's not a valid answer.

Who the frick cares how people practice if they consistently look lost when the bullets start to fly? Scrimmages and Games are bullets flying.

Trask has routinely beaten Franks in every single facet of the game from real games to the Spring Game to scrimmages.

Mullen prefers his leadership and ability to squeeze some yards from runs.

I prefer to have a downfield passing threat that doesn't breakdown every other week.

I don't know why this chaps your delicate arse so much.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41157 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:01 pm to
I am of the mind that the OL is going to be bad this year, so it won't matter who plays QB.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:22 pm to
It helps a LOT if the QB is really mobile or really accurate, neither of which are Franks. His motor takes forever to rev and his passing, in scrimmage, is still 50%.

He won't have nearly as much time as he had last year where there were only 18 sacks on the year. Just for perspective, Driskel was sacked 8 times in one game in 2012.

We will need whoever is playing QB at any time to be able to make quick decisions and be agile in mind and body alike.
Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
2091 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 12:06 am to
Reel have to hand to you you were right on with the answer non answer which I already knew just wanted to hear it from straws mouth so to speak.

Open invitation straws being you have never been to a practice why not let the spring game be the first. I'm going not sure where you live I'm in Louisiana a hop skip and a jump from baton rouge it's a 9 hour drive for me to G ville. I'll even buy you lunch and a beer

Will I see you next Saturday
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 12:17 am to
I'm in Mexico City, dumbfrick.

What's the difference of watching Trask thrash Franks on television and watching him do it in person at the Spring Game?

Now answer my question:

Who cares what goes on at practice if one guy beats the other on the field, when it matters?

6 - 1 Trask (during Mullen's tenure) with the one time Franks "won" was when they had a closed scrimmage. I'll wait.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:47 am to
That’s nice and it may be true (I don’t see how it would be or Trask would have been named the starter), but it doesn’t matter.

Franks went 10-3 as the starter last year and will have 13-15 more opportunities this year. Trask has zero, and will have zero as he is likely transferring after the spring.
Posted by real_gator8
Redington Shores
Member since Mar 2019
961 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 12:50 pm to
Straws is a hater and loves every chance to bash Franks, hes our starter..not a good look.

Most of the posters here and on the rant are under 23 yrs of age and don't remember jack about Gator history. We had a Heisman winning QB, Danny Wuerffel from 1993 to our first NC in 1996. And he was from the panhandle like Franks and like Franks he was redshirted. How many interceptions did he throw in first three years? How about 29 of them. Straws would have been bashing him I guess but he is way too young to have been around.

Danny had a weak arm but had a bevy of great wideouts to throw to, Ike Hilliard, Reidel Anthony, Jacquez Green to name the best. Franks hasn't even played his junior year yet.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 12:53 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Franks went 10-3 as the starter last year and will have 13-15 more opportunities this year. Trask has zero, and will have zero as he is likely transferring after the spring.


I wouldn't blame him.

When you beat one guy every day including on the field but can't get a competition then it's probably in your best interest to transfer.

And Jesus everyone said the same thing about Emory being the clear cut number two until the scrimmage came around.

I actually think Feleipe gets benched with this offensive line to be honest, unless he's improved a whole lot more and learned that he doesn't have to go through all of his reads/throw long 50% of the game.
Posted by real_gator8
Redington Shores
Member since Mar 2019
961 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:45 pm to
Straws your QB predictions are shite and have been. How many times have you posted false crap? How many times has Franks transferred so far?????????

Give it a freaking rest. Your knowledge is weak.
Posted by JortsOnTheRise
AL
Member since Aug 2012
241 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:18 pm to
I’m just glad Mullen is the UF coach and not Straws
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:18 pm to
Jailyn Jackson with 2 deep tds today. 1 from Franks and Trask. Kid is gonna be a weapon
Posted by Daddyof4
Country Club, MO
Member since Sep 2014
1126 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:45 pm to
Been hearing a lot about this kid. Bodes well for the WR room. They always will be better when there is major competition in that room.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35588 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

Jailyn Jackson with 2 deep tds today. 1 from Franks and Trask.

competition must be tight
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 4:31 am to
quote:

Straws your QB predictions are shite and have been.


You can talk about me supporting McElwain, but my QB predictions have been spot on.

I predicted Trask's ability to throw downfield from the Spring Game, laid it out bit by bit, piece by piece. Predicted last year that Franks would eventually get benched for Trask and was right about that, too.

Franks is just extremely lucky that his backups keep getting hurt.

Luke Del Rio.

Malik Zaire.

Kyle Trask.

I also thought Trask would be the clear cut #2 even though everyone was talking about Emory, 'lo and behold.

Don't forget that I predicted Driskel would be an NFL caliber Quarterback when everyone here called me a troll for defending him.

If there is any position I'm very good at predicting, it is 100% the QB position. I even outlined how Franks could do better, where he suffered the most and predicted how he would fare last year meticulously.

You think with your heart, I think with my head. This is all about "support my guy because that's what we do" vs. "we would never excuse this play if he played for another team".

It's just bizarre that you're as blind logically as you are in real life physically.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11431 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:05 am to
OMG, Straws, give it a rest!

Franks is our QB and will be our QB for a couple more years unless he has a great year, which I hope he does, and enters the NFL draft early. Continuously bashing him doesn't not serve any purpose except to make some of us question whether you are really a Gator fan. Just chill and be a fan of whoever the coaches put on the field.
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