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Now that it's truly athletics & money NOT academics...

Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:26 pm
Posted by VolunGator
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2020
1131 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:26 pm
Now that EVERYONE is in full agreement that college sports is about money and athletic competition and not academics (in the least) it's time the SEC dump Vanderbilt. Candy is competitive in one sport, baseball and only because they've been able to fully fund while everyone else remained at roughly 1/3.

shite can Vanderbilt.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7489 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:30 pm to
Vandy keeps everything private. Having one Private school in the conference keeps the FOI people away. That's why every conference has at least one. Big 10 has Northwestern. Big 12 has Baylor. Pac 10 has Standford and USC.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
18719 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:32 pm to
Where is that box.... where where where.... AH HA, FOUND IT!!! Box checked for gator baseball being scared of vandy baseball
Posted by VolunGator
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2020
1131 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:34 pm to
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Vandy keeps everything private


Trade em for Miami
Posted by rbtgoodson
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
269 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:38 pm to
Troll less.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:39 pm to
The SEC is not going to dump a charter member. Keep dreaming.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9913 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Vandy keeps everything private. Having one Private school in the conference keeps the FOI people away.


lol no

This is not some sec-wide loophole. Every other school in the conference can be FOIA and working with a private entity is not some lifehack to protect it
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9572 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:17 pm to
But it still is about academics. USC wasn't ever going to park their football team in the SEC. It was always going to be the B1G or stay in the PAC.

The BTAA is why Notre Dame, UVA, UNC, Oregon, Washington and Stanford will always wait on the B1G regardless of the SEC 's football dominance. That $10 billion BTAA is way more important to them than just a football TV contract.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 4:23 pm
Posted by VolunGator
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2020
1131 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:44 pm to
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Troll less


You're obviously unaware of my posting history. I do draw twice the ire though.

I'll troll for just you.

How's it feel to live in BAMA's shadow and in your own state nonetheless? I feel dirty just thinking about Auburn. BAMA will always be the big brother. Oh and your campus (assuming you're not just a tag along) sits n the middle of a trailer park.
Posted by VolunGator
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2020
1131 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:50 pm to
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The BTAA is why


Pre NIL academics played a role in conference expansion. Post NIL I'm not so sure.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

The BTAA is why Notre Dame, UVA, UNC, Oregon, Washington and Stanford will always wait on the B1G regardless of the SEC 's football dominance. That $10 billion BTAA is way more important to them than just a football TV contract.


Well said. I could not have explained it any better myself. The B1G has unlimited financial and political resources. That is why the B1G will win.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 5:02 pm
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3623 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

Now that EVERYONE is in full agreement that college sports is about money and athletic competition and not academics (in the least) it's time the SEC dump Vanderbilt.


When folks were downright proud about paying the coach multi-millions, and building facilities in the hundred million range, how hard was it for some people to still believe it wasn't about money and winning ?

It hasn't been about academics for a long, long time. It's semi-pro football. It's fun because the names change, and it's grafted onto regions that don't have pro sports. But it's semi-pro football.

Now - the money doesn't just go to the coach or the contractors building the facilities. That's all that's changed. Well, that, and maybe the cold shock of reality for some that this isn't "student athletes".

If it was, the team with the best GPA would get the option at the coin toss.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9572 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:00 pm to
It's not about student athletes. It's about elitist academics having something to be happy about (the BTAA) and their ridiculous research budget.

If academics didn't matter USC would have been trying to join the SEC.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
6145 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:07 pm to
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shite can Vanderbilt.

They've actually produced a national title in one of the Big 3 sports (Football, Basketball, Baseball) in the 21st century.

They've contributed much more in terms of athletic achievement in the past 20 years than the voLs
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 6:12 pm to
With NIL, the connection between the universities and their athletic departments are going to be near non existent, out of necessity. Once the NCAA is dead what’s to keep an Alabama or a Texas from just ignoring eligibility. What not pay and keep your QB till he’s 30.

The SEC will continue to dominate athletics because that’s where the athletes are.

Universities in general will continue to decline in influence because they are utterly unnecessary in a free information era. They just don’t provide value relative to their opportunity cost….unless you’re in a stem field that requires a sequence of undergrad, grad, doctoral.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
1404 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:38 pm to
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This is not some sec-wide loophole. Every other school in the conference can be FOIA and working with a private entity is not some lifehack to protect it



It's amazing how many times I've heard that urban legend.

I'm dumbfounded that people actually believe it for the reasons you described. I guess some guys got together once upon a time and were trying to figure out why each league had private schools in them and that ridiculous assumption is what they came up with.
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