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re: Bryce Young and the Heisman

Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:51 am to
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:51 am to
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That being said, I would vote for Pickett. He's single-handedly brought Pittsburgh to a 10-win season. Pittsburgh.

Pitt has a chance to win 11 games for the first time since 1981.


So you think Alabama, with that offense line, would have won 11 games with Paul Tyson at QB? I know LSU fans are not known to have any objectivity when it comes to Bama sports but...come on dude..LOL.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:52 am to
Honestly, I think if we lose to Georgia and Young is ok but not spectacular, he won't win. If we beat Georgia, either Young or Anderson is going to win it depending on who has the biggest game.

If we lose and Pickett has a huge game against Wake (which he will because Wake's pass defense is a disaster), I could easily see him winning. Wake has given up 407 to UVA, 408 to NC State and 309 to Louisville. Pickett will throw 40 times for 425 yards and 4 or 5 TDs in that game, even if they lose.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 10:54 am
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:55 am to
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And yes, team performance has always played a big part in who wins the Heisman
My point is that it shouldn't be; it's an individual award.
Posted by Trojan1998
Member since Oct 2004
1237 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:56 am to
He good!!!
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30607 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:57 am to
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Honestly, I think if we lose to Georgia and Young is ok but not spectacular, he won't win. If we beat Georgia, either Young or Anderson is going to win it depending on who has the biggest game.

I agree, although I'd be astonished if ANY 100% defensive player ever won it.
Posted by nastywideouts
Member since Sep 2018
1439 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:00 am to
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ickett has a huge game against Wake (which he will because Wake's pass defense is a disaster), I could easily see him winning. Wake has given up 407 to UVA, 408 to NC State and 309 to Louisville. Pickett will throw 40 times for 425 yards and 4 or 5 TDs in that game, even if they lose.

Then Sam Williams sacks him 5 times in the Peach Bowl.

Like Alvin Mack said: It ain't often you get a chance to kick the shite out of a Heisman trophy candidate

This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18539 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:02 am to
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It's not like he doesn't deserve it. Not his fault the competition isn't that great for it this year.


I don’t see why he wouldn’t win it most years.

His stats are insane and his scrambling ability is way underrated. There have been many plays where Young has escaped pressure to complete a pinpointed pass downfield.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5767 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:04 am to
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Have you seen Pickett's stats? And yes, team performance has always played a big part in who wins the Heisman.



Kenny Pickett: 4066 yards; 40 TDs; 7 INTs; QBR; 81.7
National Rank 5th 2nd 58th 8th

Bryce Young: 3901 yards; 40 Tds; 4 INT; QBR; 86.7
National Rank 6th 2nd 11th 4th
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21178 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:05 am to
The hype far exceeds Young's abilities. He really was not very good the other day. That is not a knock on him, but he is not Heisman material yet.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:06 am to
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So you think Alabama, with that offense line, would have won 11 games with Paul Tyson at QB? I know LSU fans are not known to have any objectivity when it comes to Bama sports but...come on dude..LOL.


You think Pickett has a stronger supporting cast at Pitt than Young has at Bama. Really?
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7524 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:06 am to
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Please. In any other season other than 2019, yall would give your left nut for 40 tds, 4 ints, 3900 yards, and a 69% completion percentage through 12 games




Doing all that behind a bad OL too. He's the main reason Bama has gotten this far.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 11:07 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:07 am to
He was 25/52 with an interception against a secondary that was torched against MSU. I still think the OSU player is the odds on favorite.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:08 am to
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You think Pickett has a stronger supporting cast at Pitt than Young has at Bama.


Depending on the group? Yeah. I think Pickett's offensive line is better than Young's.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105534 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:10 am to
Dude was under extreme duress during Auburn and he looked as cool as ice the whole game. The poise he exhibits is fricking unreal.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:11 am to
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You think Pickett has a stronger supporting cast at Pitt than Young has at Bama. Really?



I think that when you combine Pitt's supporting cast + their schedule and compare it to Alabama's supporting cast + their schedule that it nets out to being pretty damn negligible. Jordan Addison is going to be a 1st round pick at WR in 2 years. Their offensive line has been highly rated and graded all year in pass protection and starts 4 seniors and 1 junior.

Like I said, if Pickett has a big game against Wake and they win and Alabama loses, I'm guessing Pickett wins (and I'd be totally cool with that, it would be pretty neat).
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 11:17 am
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5767 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:11 am to
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The hype far exceeds Young's abilities. He really was not very good the other day. That is not a knock on him, but he is not Heisman material yet.


I'm amazed that is your takeaway. He was under constant pressure and had little time to do anything. Most other QBs would have probably folded. He was rattled but came back to make the plays when they counted. Only an LSU fan (or Iron Puppet) would come up with this hot take.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7524 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:12 am to
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He was 25/52 with an interception against a secondary that was torched against MSU. I still think the OSU player is the odds on favorite.



Maybe if Auburn got up for other games like they get up for Alabama they'd win more games and wouldn't be getting torched?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14577 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:12 am to
You know Bryce Young is the real deal when he's already getting the Tua, Jalen, and Mac treatment.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5623 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:12 am to
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I still think the OSU player is the odds on favorite.


Guess what? He isn't. Young is at virtually every place you can look and find a list. There's only one poster on this entire site more consistently wrong and retarded than you and that's Dukke V.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105534 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:13 am to
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He was 25/52 with an interception against a secondary that was torched against MSU


We played a totally different scheme vs Bryant than Rogers.

We played more man and extreme pressure/blitzes. If we played the same D we did vs MSU, Bryant would have throttled us.

Also, unfortunately Bryant won and Stroud did not. That 97 yard drive in just over a minute will have more impact than anything Stroud did Saturday.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 11:15 am
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