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re: Bryce Young and the Heisman

Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:16 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:16 am to
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The hype far exceeds Young's abilities. He really was not very good the other day. That is not a knock on him, but he is not Heisman material yet.

You can't see the forest for the trees!
His Oline will neither allow him time to throw, nor establish a run game that would help his passing!
He's doing most of all this on his own!
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7158 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:17 am to
Updated 2021 Heisman Trophy Odds: Bryce Young Reclaims Lead over C.J. Stroud
Nov 28, 2021

Bryce Young - Alabama: -250 (Last Week +140)
CJ Stroud - Ohio State: +300 (Last Week -220)
Field: +1200 (Last Week: +4000)
Matt Corral - Ole Miss: +2500 (Last Week +4000)
Desmond Ridder - Cincinnati: +8000
Sepncer Sanders - Oklahoma State: +50000
Frank Gore Jr - Southern Miss: +500000

LINK
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105432 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:19 am to
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He really was not very good the other day.


Very shortsighted, in a game like that where his line was totally dominated and he never flinched, looked rushed, panicky, or anything. The guy just kept working and won the game. He showed more of how elite he is in the Auburn game than Stroud did in his loss to MI.

Sacked 7 times and hurried 8, and he was fricking cool as ice, and it pisses me off too. Frick him.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 11:23 am
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:20 am to
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You think Pickett has a stronger supporting cast at Pitt than Young has at Bama. Really?


Yes I do. Pickett's OLine has protected hum better than Alabama's Oline protects Bryce.

From the rankings: Sacks against Pittsburgh 62nd nationally
Alabama 112th.

Also, Bryce does not have the luxury of handing off to a Najee Harris or Josh Jacobs. He's handing the ball to Brian Robinson who's a solid back but definitely won't be a first or second day draft pick.
Bryce has one really dynamic WR in Williams and one solid but not explosive playmaker in Metchie.

All of this and when you compare competition between the teams, I would say Pickett has a better supporting cast.
Posted by ClemsonRules
Virginia
Member since Jan 2017
2608 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:23 am to
Haven’t been paying much attention to Heisman but seems Matt Corral - Ole Miss is by far the most dynamic player this year…Bryce Young has been Meh in the big games…what am I missing here?
Posted by Yaz 8
Member since Jun 2020
1139 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:27 am to
Auburn fans ,besides the psycho one, are much more complimentary than JeaLSU. It’s amazing how eaten up with envy they are
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:27 am to
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Very shortsighted, in a game like that where his line was totally dominated and he never flinched, looked rushed, panicky, or anything. The guy just kept working and won the game. He showed more of how elite he is in the Auburn game than Stroud did in his loss to MI.


I actually did think he got a little flustered in the 2nd qtr and early 3rd. He started zeroing in on 1 or 2 guys, too, and missed some open throws. But once he got protected for about a series or so in the mid-3rd he seemed to get back into the zone.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 11:28 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Haven’t been paying much attention to Heisman but seems Matt Corral - Ole Miss is by far the most dynamic player this year…Bryce Young has been Meh in the big games…what am I missing here?



Apparently most of it
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:30 am to
quote:

Haven’t been paying much attention to Heisman but seems Matt Corral - Ole Miss is by far the most dynamic player this year…Bryce Young has been Meh in the big games…what am I missing here?


How dynamic was Coral in Auburn? Or in Tuscaloosa against Alabama? His stats have been "meh".
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22092 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:30 am to
Bryce Young is the next Kyler Murray. Bank it.

And . . . the next Saints QB in two years unless Tua gets traded to N.O. Better start liking them now bro.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:31 am to
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It’s amazing how eaten up with envy they are


It is literally impossible for them to have any semblance of objectivity when it comes to Alabama players.
Posted by nastywideouts
Member since Sep 2018
1439 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:32 am to
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His stats have been "meh".
Except total yards..he's at 3,930 where Young is at 3,892. Young definitely has him on the efficiency and TDs though.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:33 am to
Meh, he had to go with his first 1 or two because of the pressure forced it, but he never showed real panic or frustration when he didn't connect. He got right back at it the next play. I never saw him lose it with the line, kept picking himself up and moving along.

His poise is on another level.
Posted by Crimsonite94
Member since Jul 2021
3564 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:33 am to
Bryce deserves it. He has a revolving door at RT and never gave up this season.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:34 am to
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xcept total yards..he's at 3,930 where Young is at 3,892


Not to split hairs but I'm showing Young at 3901 yards from ESPN.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16499 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:35 am to
Yep hes not legit worthy for sure. Ive said it all year entire product is shite.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21056 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:36 am to
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I'm amazed that is your takeaway. He was under constant pressure and had little time to do anything. Most other QBs would have probably folded. He was rattled but came back to make the plays when they counted. Only an LSU fan (or Iron Puppet) would come up with this hot take.


The Heisman is for the best player in college football. The best player in college football does not get rattled. Seriously, gumps do this all the time. Tua was the greatest, now Young is the greatest. I would say he is an above average QB, but is not the best player in college football.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:38 am to
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Meh, he had to go with his first 1 or two because of the pressure forced it, but he never showed real panic or frustration when he didn't connect. He got right back at it the next play. I never saw him lose it with the line, kept picking himself up and moving along.

His poise is on another level.


Oh yea - 100%. His level of calm and cool, especially the way he expresses emotions, is off the charts for anybody, but especially for a Sophomore in his first year starting. He easily could have acted like a petulant child about how often he's gotten hit this year. He hasn't reacted in a negative way about it once. The only frustration I've seen out of him all year was in the Tennessee game when he had 1-2 bad series where he missed some throws (that was the Saban talking to him on the sidelines event).

He's very easy to root for.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 11:38 am
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18220 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:39 am to
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Please. In any other season other than 2019, yall would give your left nut for 40 tds, 4 ints, 3900 yards, and a 69% completion percentage through 12 games


Plus, a signature drive (97 yds, no time outs with 1:27 on the clock without WR1 (SEC WR leader), a jumbled OL that had been abused all game, and a RB that was RB4 to start the season) vs your rival in one of the most hostile, voodoo infested venues in all of CFB.

He may not win it, but he won't be undeserving if he does.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:42 am to
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The Heisman is for the best player in college football. The best player in college football does not get rattled. Seriously, gumps do this all the time. Tua was the greatest, now Young is the greatest. I would say he is an above average QB, but is not the best player in college football.


I would say your take away is completely biased but then again LSLoser fans do this all the time and should be expected.
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