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Scott Frost Proving Tom Osborne's Greatness...

Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:13 am
Posted by fanmeister
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:13 am
I think that Scott Frost proves, each game and each season, just what a great coach Tom Osborne was. The really great programs (Alabama, LSU) are self sustaining - able to win championships with numerous coaches. (The Miami teams of 30 years ago are another example). Oklahoma and Georgia are historically "good", but haven't crossed the line to "great", IMO. But Nebraska has not had even a sniff of success since Osborne left. His teams of the mid 90's could be considered some of the best ever, and I've never seen a gutsier call than the two point try against Miami in '85, when a tie would have assured him a championship. All programs go through downturns at times, but it just doesn't look like Nebraska has any hope of ever being anything but mediocre again. Sad for college football, as the old Nebraska - Oklahoma matchups were always one of the highlights of each season.
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 9:14 am
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:15 am to
Tom Osborne was worse than Art Briles ever thought about being.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
7362 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:24 am to
Tom Osborne was a great coach who doesn't really need descendant coaches to "prove" his greatness. Along with Devaney, Osborne was the greatest coach in Nebraska history and one of the greatest coaches in all of college football history.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119844 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:25 am to
Life was simpler before NIL
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
22020 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:26 am to
Yeah amazing what Osborne could do with roids and unlimited rosters
Posted by Naked Bootleg
Member since Jul 2021
1874 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:28 am to
Osborne’s “greatness” in the 90’s was a direct result of Switzer leaving the arena.

Osborne’s overuse of Nebraska’s partial qualifier loophole and his overlooking of insidious behavior of his players was disgusting, all in an attempt to beat Switzer’s machine at OU. Switzer absolutely owned Osborne.

They should have never fired Solich and they severed their recruiting pipeline when they left the big 12. Frost vs. Osborne is an apples & oranges comparison.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11191 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:47 am to
Osborne benefitted from a lack of NCAA oversight of PEDs, shady in-state recruiting of "partial qualifiers", as well as 150 man rosters. Once those things were taken away they collapsed and haven't recovered.


Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6843 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:50 am to
Nebraska was ahead in steroids. Once that evened out their competitive advantage was gone.
Posted by ArmyTide
Member since Aug 2021
77 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 10:56 am to
I think you’re underestimating how much of a loser Scott Frost is. College football is ALL about the head coach. Just look at what Mack Brown has done at UNC.
Scott Frost just got destroyed by Bret Bilemma

Even Texas has sucked for 10 years due to not having a good coach.

It’s all about the head coach.

If Nebraska hired Lane Kiffin, they’d become the second best team in the Big 10 within a few years
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 1:46 pm to
1. Partial qualifiers
2. County schollies
3. "Strength and conditioning"
4. Doing things that even Urban at UF didn't do

Osborne would probably win 9 games a year nowadays just like Pelini and Solich.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30458 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:06 pm to
Dr. Tom is a JoePa level hypocrite. Nebraska was always the "good guys" compared to their Big 8 rival Oklahoma led by Barry Switzer. Nebraska under Dr. Tom was also known for gagging in the big games. So Dr. Tom sold his soul and started bringing in thugs and lowlifes like the Lawrence Phillipses and Christian Peters of the world all while projecting a holier than thou attitude. He didn't win shite until he brought a criminal element to Lincoln.
Posted by DashRipRock
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Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6017 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:39 pm to
They innovated in the offseason S&C space (steroids too) and used state academic scholarships to mask in-state signees from the NCAA scholarship counter.

Comprehensive drug testing and the preferred walk-on rule killed the Nebraska football program as a national power for at least the rest our lives. Maybe on an infinite timescale Nebraska will be relevant again but not for a long time.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2778 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:04 pm to
Nebraska is Red Tennessee. Both have forever lost the competitive advantages that gave them the opportunities they took advantage of and they still refuse to except it.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Member since Sep 2010
20728 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Oklahoma and Georgia are historically "good", but haven't crossed the line to "great"


7 NC's spread across 4 different decades, 50 conference titles, 7 Heisman winners, and 6th in all time program wins (and could easily be in 4th by the end of this season) says you're clueless about what makes a program great.

Oh, and they have 5 former head coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame.
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 4:13 pm to
So you think LSU is more prestigious than OU?

What…
Posted by HuskerdownSouth
Member since Jun 2021
38 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 8:19 pm to
For a SEC board, Nebraska sure does get discussed a lot around here.

First, let’s stop with the partial qualifier “loophole” stuff. It was allowed within the rules and used by many teams. It must have been tough on Tom to not have a team comprised of 100 future surgeons like your teams currently enjoy. Look up the Academic All Americans that played for him- I think it’s more than any other school has total.

Second- if you think Nebraska was the only school that had players on steroids; bless your heart. They invented strength and conditioning for football. The only mistake was showing others what they were doing.

Nebraska lost a pile of bowl games in a row- no doubt. Playing Miami in their home stadium year after year isn’t as easy as it sounds.

Oklahoma taking the high road and bashing Nebraska: come on. While I like Barry Switzer and miss the rivalry, they were SMU dirty for years.

Osborne won over 10 games a year (in 11 game seasons) and took apart some pretty goad coaches (and SEC teams) along the way. He also did it without top 5 recruiting classes. The Huskers beat people with amazing execution and great coaching. None of which Nebraska has now.

Frost is a massive disappointment- he is clearly in over his head and likely won’t survive this season.

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