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Scott Frost Proving Tom Osborne's Greatness...
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:13 am
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:13 am
I think that Scott Frost proves, each game and each season, just what a great coach Tom Osborne was. The really great programs (Alabama, LSU) are self sustaining - able to win championships with numerous coaches. (The Miami teams of 30 years ago are another example). Oklahoma and Georgia are historically "good", but haven't crossed the line to "great", IMO. But Nebraska has not had even a sniff of success since Osborne left. His teams of the mid 90's could be considered some of the best ever, and I've never seen a gutsier call than the two point try against Miami in '85, when a tie would have assured him a championship. All programs go through downturns at times, but it just doesn't look like Nebraska has any hope of ever being anything but mediocre again. Sad for college football, as the old Nebraska - Oklahoma matchups were always one of the highlights of each season.
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 9:14 am
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:15 am to fanmeister
Tom Osborne was worse than Art Briles ever thought about being.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:24 am to fanmeister
Tom Osborne was a great coach who doesn't really need descendant coaches to "prove" his greatness. Along with Devaney, Osborne was the greatest coach in Nebraska history and one of the greatest coaches in all of college football history.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:25 am to fanmeister
Life was simpler before NIL
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:26 am to fanmeister
Yeah amazing what Osborne could do with roids and unlimited rosters
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:28 am to fanmeister
Osborne’s “greatness” in the 90’s was a direct result of Switzer leaving the arena.
Osborne’s overuse of Nebraska’s partial qualifier loophole and his overlooking of insidious behavior of his players was disgusting, all in an attempt to beat Switzer’s machine at OU. Switzer absolutely owned Osborne.
They should have never fired Solich and they severed their recruiting pipeline when they left the big 12. Frost vs. Osborne is an apples & oranges comparison.
Osborne’s overuse of Nebraska’s partial qualifier loophole and his overlooking of insidious behavior of his players was disgusting, all in an attempt to beat Switzer’s machine at OU. Switzer absolutely owned Osborne.
They should have never fired Solich and they severed their recruiting pipeline when they left the big 12. Frost vs. Osborne is an apples & oranges comparison.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:47 am to fanmeister
Osborne benefitted from a lack of NCAA oversight of PEDs, shady in-state recruiting of "partial qualifiers", as well as 150 man rosters. Once those things were taken away they collapsed and haven't recovered.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 9:50 am to fanmeister
Nebraska was ahead in steroids. Once that evened out their competitive advantage was gone.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 10:56 am to fanmeister
I think you’re underestimating how much of a loser Scott Frost is. College football is ALL about the head coach. Just look at what Mack Brown has done at UNC.
Scott Frost just got destroyed by Bret Bilemma
Even Texas has sucked for 10 years due to not having a good coach.
It’s all about the head coach.
If Nebraska hired Lane Kiffin, they’d become the second best team in the Big 10 within a few years
Scott Frost just got destroyed by Bret Bilemma
Even Texas has sucked for 10 years due to not having a good coach.
It’s all about the head coach.
If Nebraska hired Lane Kiffin, they’d become the second best team in the Big 10 within a few years
Posted on 8/29/21 at 1:46 pm to fanmeister
1. Partial qualifiers
2. County schollies
3. "Strength and conditioning"
4. Doing things that even Urban at UF didn't do
Osborne would probably win 9 games a year nowadays just like Pelini and Solich.
2. County schollies
3. "Strength and conditioning"
4. Doing things that even Urban at UF didn't do
Osborne would probably win 9 games a year nowadays just like Pelini and Solich.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:06 pm to fanmeister
Dr. Tom is a JoePa level hypocrite. Nebraska was always the "good guys" compared to their Big 8 rival Oklahoma led by Barry Switzer. Nebraska under Dr. Tom was also known for gagging in the big games. So Dr. Tom sold his soul and started bringing in thugs and lowlifes like the Lawrence Phillipses and Christian Peters of the world all while projecting a holier than thou attitude. He didn't win shite until he brought a criminal element to Lincoln.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:39 pm to fanmeister
They innovated in the offseason S&C space (steroids too) and used state academic scholarships to mask in-state signees from the NCAA scholarship counter.
Comprehensive drug testing and the preferred walk-on rule killed the Nebraska football program as a national power for at least the rest our lives. Maybe on an infinite timescale Nebraska will be relevant again but not for a long time.
Comprehensive drug testing and the preferred walk-on rule killed the Nebraska football program as a national power for at least the rest our lives. Maybe on an infinite timescale Nebraska will be relevant again but not for a long time.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:04 pm to fanmeister
Nebraska is Red Tennessee. Both have forever lost the competitive advantages that gave them the opportunities they took advantage of and they still refuse to except it.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:17 pm to fanmeister
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Oklahoma and Georgia are historically "good", but haven't crossed the line to "great"
7 NC's spread across 4 different decades, 50 conference titles, 7 Heisman winners, and 6th in all time program wins (and could easily be in 4th by the end of this season) says you're clueless about what makes a program great.
Oh, and they have 5 former head coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame.
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 8/29/21 at 4:13 pm to fanmeister
So you think LSU is more prestigious than OU?
What…
What…
Posted on 8/29/21 at 8:19 pm to fanmeister
For a SEC board, Nebraska sure does get discussed a lot around here.
First, let’s stop with the partial qualifier “loophole” stuff. It was allowed within the rules and used by many teams. It must have been tough on Tom to not have a team comprised of 100 future surgeons like your teams currently enjoy. Look up the Academic All Americans that played for him- I think it’s more than any other school has total.
Second- if you think Nebraska was the only school that had players on steroids; bless your heart. They invented strength and conditioning for football. The only mistake was showing others what they were doing.
Nebraska lost a pile of bowl games in a row- no doubt. Playing Miami in their home stadium year after year isn’t as easy as it sounds.
Oklahoma taking the high road and bashing Nebraska: come on. While I like Barry Switzer and miss the rivalry, they were SMU dirty for years.
Osborne won over 10 games a year (in 11 game seasons) and took apart some pretty goad coaches (and SEC teams) along the way. He also did it without top 5 recruiting classes. The Huskers beat people with amazing execution and great coaching. None of which Nebraska has now.
Frost is a massive disappointment- he is clearly in over his head and likely won’t survive this season.
First, let’s stop with the partial qualifier “loophole” stuff. It was allowed within the rules and used by many teams. It must have been tough on Tom to not have a team comprised of 100 future surgeons like your teams currently enjoy. Look up the Academic All Americans that played for him- I think it’s more than any other school has total.
Second- if you think Nebraska was the only school that had players on steroids; bless your heart. They invented strength and conditioning for football. The only mistake was showing others what they were doing.
Nebraska lost a pile of bowl games in a row- no doubt. Playing Miami in their home stadium year after year isn’t as easy as it sounds.
Oklahoma taking the high road and bashing Nebraska: come on. While I like Barry Switzer and miss the rivalry, they were SMU dirty for years.
Osborne won over 10 games a year (in 11 game seasons) and took apart some pretty goad coaches (and SEC teams) along the way. He also did it without top 5 recruiting classes. The Huskers beat people with amazing execution and great coaching. None of which Nebraska has now.
Frost is a massive disappointment- he is clearly in over his head and likely won’t survive this season.
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