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Sarc has never proved he is Head Coach Material

Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:15 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4616 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:15 pm
I'm not dissing the guy. I like him and he has done a great job. I was even comfortable with the Coach in Waiting designation if he continued as Coach Saban's understudy for four or five more years and had Coach Saban's endorsement.

Everybody says Texas is a top tier job and he has to take it. Maybe so. But he may very well be out of work the day Saban steps down. If so, there will be no more major opportunities for him.

I'm sure he'll bank. I wish him well. But winning under Saban with the best talent in the country is one thing. Turning around Texas is another. Every box he checks Herman checked as well.

As big a job as Texas is, its still not clear to me that this is the best decision for his long term success.

This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 7:16 pm
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16642 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:15 pm to
he is a great coach and now that his issues are behind him he should be good to go
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51060 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:25 pm to
I agree, but can't fault him for taking the opportunity.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4616 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:35 pm to
No I don't do fault him.

But 3.5 million a year for the next five years cruising at Bama and winning championships, while learning all aspects of championship football under the greatest coach of all times... Followed by inheriting the best job in college football in the midst of it's greatest dynasty.. well, that's what you call being set up for success

Or, you roll the dice and go to a coaches grave yard.

I'm not going to lie. I am disappointed. It was a great chance at stability. And with the way our recruiting is going, we could have ... And he could have been part of something awesome.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 7:39 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:37 pm to
Herman's severance > $15M. My risk for failing is to get $15M+ if I'm fired? Where do I sign?

BTW, Sark has been a HC before, at UW & USC.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 8:16 am
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4616 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:44 pm to
He won't starve.

But 15 years at Bama is worth what? A half a billion, considering all the business interests etc that a coach at Bama is introduced to?

I'm simple saying the odds were shorter here for his long term success and legacy.

Didn't mean to imply he will end up destitute. Lol.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
5730 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:56 pm to
No stability unless you have coordinators too old to want to make that jump and are just focused on their current roles.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26996 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:01 pm to
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But 3.5 million a year for the next five years cruising at Bama and winning championships, while learning all aspects of championship football under the greatest coach of all times...


Seriously??? Go back and think about what you just typed. How many years has Sark already worked with Saban? And you think there's a lot more he can learn in 5 years that he hasn't learned in 3 years? What the frick has he been learning everything for, if not to take a job like this? This isn't a guy who's never run a program, like Smart and Pruitt.

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And with the way our recruiting is going, we could have ... And he could have been part of something awesome.


You don't think he's already been part of something awesome? And you don't think he has the opportunity to go to Texas and create something awesome?

You seem to not be able to grasp the fact that for these guys the pinacle of success isn't being an assistant at Alabama for ten years.

You're not thinking rationally. You're just not.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
43070 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:08 pm to
I do think this move ends any chance of Sark ever being head coach at Alabama. If he does well there, he’ll never leave for another college job. If he doesn’t do well, then we won’t want him.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 10:09 pm
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:57 pm to
Lol. I agree. He coached two seasons with some of the most talented offensive players in the country that he didn’t recruit, so he’s suddenly head coach-worthy. I mean Mike Locksley coached Bama to a NC game two years ago ffs. He’s 5-12 after two seasons in Maryland.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 12:58 am
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11470 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:09 pm to
In his two previous stops he took Washington from abysmal to slightly above average. Takes over at USC, has one above average season and is fired in the middle of the next for personal problems. Tom Hermann actually has a higher winning percentage than Sark and checks most of the same boxes. Sark’s advantages are his less abrasive personality, his ability to develop QBs, and his play calling artistry.
Good for Sark for the promotion and the check he’s finna cash, but I don’t see this ending well for him. He either continues winning at roughly the current level Texas is at: about 8-4 or 9-3 and gets canned in four years just like Hermann. Or his personal demons resurface and he gets fired. If he thought USC was high pressure, he ain’t seen nothing yet. I hope I’m wrong and Sark is a home run hire for them even though I hate Texas. Sark has earned our respect and admiration.

This is a big head scratcher to me. Texas accomplished nothing but to create a headache for Alabama and hired a similar version of the man they just fired.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:16 pm to
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This is a big head scratcher to me. Texas accomplished nothing but to create a headache for Alabama and hired a similar version of the man they just fired.


Exactly. All the people that have been saying they want Sark as coach-in-waiting are asking for Shula 2.0. He’s a good offensive coordinator and QB mentor, but I don’t see how he’s a proven head coach after two years. As I stated before with Locksley, I think just about any OC in the country could have success at Alabama right now.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 11:17 pm
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18341 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:17 pm to
You're either a good coach or not. The best ones typically grew up with a father that was a coach and did time in Ohio.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20721 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:23 pm to
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I mean Mike Locksley coached Bama to a NC two years ago ffs


No he didn't. Locksley's season as OC he put up 16 points against Clemson and we got the frick beat out of us.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:52 am to
Guess I wasn’t clear. Locksley coached Bama to a national championship game. I didn’t say Bama won it. Bama was undefeated up to that game, and it wasn’t so much the offense as the defense that let Bama down so badly. Offense never had momentum because they were playing from behind the whole game. They still managed to get to the redzone most drives though. You can’t blame Locksley on Tua’s opening pick-6 either.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 12:57 am
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3476 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:10 am to
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Offense never had momentum because they were playing from behind the whole game.


Alabama led 16-14 in the second. Clemson scored on the next drive and then Tua threw his second terrible interception which Clemson cashed in for another touchdown.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20721 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:25 am to
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You can’t blame Locksley on Tua’s opening pick-6 either.




I mean, we blame Golding for Moses being slow due to injury, and for Malachi Moore getting repeatedly arse raped by Kadarius Toney, and for Daniel Wright just not being very good at football most of the time. I don't see why Locks should get a pass.

Seriously, though, neither Locks nor Daboll was all that good. Daboll took the offensive group Kiffin had in 2016, added the greatest single-class receiving corps in CFB history, and underperformed what Kiffin did in the passing game.

We've been fortunate to have the two best playcallers currently in CFB in Sark and Kiffin, and in between them we had two mediocre ones. We have so much talent that all of them were extremely successful. That's why I'm not terribly worried about this hire.

The only thing that will keep me up at night is if Young leaves and we have no QB.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:30 am to
The only lead that lasted all of 2 minutes after a lucky fg by Bulovas.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9468 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:30 am to
Locksley and Daboll both had young QBs as well. Locks and Daboll would have offenses just as good as our current one with a 5th year senior QB at the helm.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:34 am to
Lol Daboll was/is a great OC. Have you not seen the Bills this year? 1st in the AFC East. He had Jalen Hurts to work with as a QB until the second half of the national championship game against UGA when Tua game in. I wish we had him in 2018. Also, I don’t see why Young would leave. He’s learned as much from Sark as he probably ever will, and he’s almost guaranteed the starting job next year at Bama unless he pulls a Blake Barnett.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 1:41 am
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