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re: Sarc has never proved he is Head Coach Material
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:13 am to RTRcdub
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:13 am to RTRcdub
If I were Sark, I would have taken the Texas job. I don't think his stock is ever going to be higher than it is now, he's probably as prepared as he's ever going to be, and if he goes to Texas and wins at least he will have done it on his own rather than simply continue what Saban has built at Bama if he were to inherit the job.
And so what if it doesn't work out and he's fired? He already has millions in the bank, will make more at Texas, and will have a golden parachute if he gets the boot. And if he really wants to stay in coaching, somebody would be happy to hire him as OC.
People talk about the pressure on big-time college coaches. bullshite. They may have a lot more people bitching about their performance if it isn't up to standard, but that's not nearly as bad as being unemployed with bills you can't pay - and those guys will never have to worry about that. I would rather deal with Finebaum's barbs than a past due notice from the power company.
All that said, I don't think I would have hired Sark if it were my decision. Almost all of Saban's coordinators have been successful because they are coaching the best talent in the country in a disciplined environment.
I don't know who else UT might have pursued, but I would have looked at Matt Campbell. If you can win the Fiesta Bowl at frickin' Iowa State you damn sure ought to be able to compete for national titles at Texas.
And so what if it doesn't work out and he's fired? He already has millions in the bank, will make more at Texas, and will have a golden parachute if he gets the boot. And if he really wants to stay in coaching, somebody would be happy to hire him as OC.
People talk about the pressure on big-time college coaches. bullshite. They may have a lot more people bitching about their performance if it isn't up to standard, but that's not nearly as bad as being unemployed with bills you can't pay - and those guys will never have to worry about that. I would rather deal with Finebaum's barbs than a past due notice from the power company.
All that said, I don't think I would have hired Sark if it were my decision. Almost all of Saban's coordinators have been successful because they are coaching the best talent in the country in a disciplined environment.
I don't know who else UT might have pursued, but I would have looked at Matt Campbell. If you can win the Fiesta Bowl at frickin' Iowa State you damn sure ought to be able to compete for national titles at Texas.
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 7:42 am to Shaft Williams
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Locksley and Daboll both had young QBs as well.
Daboll had Hurts a year after Kiffin made him SEC OPOY. Daboll took that SEC OPOY, added the greatest receiver class ever in CFB and made it worse.
He had a chance with MUCH more talent than Kiffin had and his numbers were worse. Daboll was garbage compared to Kiffin.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 7:44 am
Posted on 1/3/21 at 7:47 am to RTRcdub
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He had Jalen Hurts to work with as a QB until the second half of the national championship game against UGA when Tua game in
Just stop with that shite. He had the same qb that Kiffin had, and added the greatest receiver class ever, and MADE THE OFFENSE WORSE. It's honestly like some of you guys don't actually watch Alabama Football.
Daboll couldn't sniff Kiffin's jock.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 8:01 am
Posted on 1/3/21 at 8:07 am to RiverCityTider
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But 15 years at Bama is worth what? A half a billion, considering all the business interests etc that a coach at Bama is introduced to?
I'm simple saying the odds were shorter here for his long term success and legacy.
Didn't mean to imply he will end up destitute. Lol.
it's an entirely moot point. He's gone
Posted on 1/3/21 at 8:51 am to BLG
I imagine these assistant coaches see how these coaches under Saban get promoted. Saban probably has way more candidates than he needs to adequately fill the position. I bet he has a list of 30 candidates and his phone is ringing off the hook with people wanting the job.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:01 am to RiverCityTider
This whole thread is silly.
In any job, if offered a chance to advance - 99% of people do that.
And, I may be wrong, but Sark has never been a part of a Natty here as an on-the-field Coach. I think that is important too. He really needs this championship to secure a legacy here so one day, if willing and he does well for Texas, he may want to return as a potential replacement for Saban.
In any job, if offered a chance to advance - 99% of people do that.
And, I may be wrong, but Sark has never been a part of a Natty here as an on-the-field Coach. I think that is important too. He really needs this championship to secure a legacy here so one day, if willing and he does well for Texas, he may want to return as a potential replacement for Saban.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:08 am to Bham4Tide
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This whole thread is silly. In any job, if offered a chance to advance - 99% of people do that.
Regardless of whether or not they have never “proved” anything.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 9:11 am
Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:14 am to MrMojoRisin
I guess I'm just in the 1% who wouldn't, but if my old boss called me up and offered me a promotion and a raise to come back I'd laugh at him and hang up. No amount of money or job titles can make up for a toxic work environment where you have to constantly look over your shoulder to see who is sneaking up on you with a knife.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:25 pm to Evolved Simian
Most of Jalen’s success as a freshman was due to a mostly weak SEC schedule (Ole Miss and LSU were ok) and Bama’s defense being insanely good. In 2016, the defense scored about as much as the offense. Daboll had Hurts when every other team had a year or more of game film on him. Auburn and Georgia shut him down. It wasn’t really the difference between Daboll and Kiffin. Kiffin might have called a few more jet sweeps.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:27 pm to Bham4Tide
I wouldn’t say 99%. A lot of people take consistency and happiness over misery and money.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:11 pm to Bham4Tide
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This whole thread is silly.
Of course it is.
There are fundamentals that some on this board seem to be unable to grasp:
1. Most are long time or even lifelong Bama fans. Sark most definitely is not. He's an employee. And while he's been a very loyal and hardworking employee and given us everything he's had while he's been here, that changes around midnight next Monday. His loyalty to us is only as an employee, for as long as he is...as it should be.
2. Look at these two choices:
Option A: Sark stays here for 5 more years as OC and we win 3 more national championships, after this one. Maybe he then gets a plum job, maybe not.
Option B: Sark leaves now, and in the next 5 years wins 2 or 3 Big 12 championships and a national championship, while Bama wins none after this year.
Sark obviously would choose Option B. Every poster on this board would choose Option A, and some can't understand why Sark wouldn't also. Edit...one of them downvoted.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 1/3/21 at 5:09 pm to Evolved Simian
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Just stop with that shite. He had the same qb that Kiffin had, and added the greatest receiver class ever, and MADE THE OFFENSE WORSE. It's honestly like some of you guys don't actually watch Alabama Football.
Daboll couldn't sniff Kiffin's jock.
Daboll has a championship ring too, genius. He’s a pro style OC. Had Bama not had the defense we had in 15-16, we have no championship appearances. 2017 was the start of the decline on defense. We lost Williams, Humphrey, Allen, Tomlinson, Jackson, Anderson, and Foster. Luckily we held onto Fitzpatrick, Payne, and Evans. I know you love Kiffin, but look at the reality. Kiffin had the best running back in the SEC in 2014 and blew a huge lead against OSU by not utilizing him. I don’t think you watch the damn games honestly.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:23 am to RTRcdub
Daboll is probably headed for a head coaching job in the nfl.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:19 am to BamaGradinTn
Or option C. Sark leaves now, wins a couple of big 10 championships, doesn't sniff a NC because Texas brass constantly meddles, and gets fired like Brown, Strong, etc. Meanwhile Bama wins two or three more NCs.
Your downvote probably came because your options implied that Bama would only win a NC with Sark as OC.
Your downvote probably came because your options implied that Bama would only win a NC with Sark as OC.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 1:05 pm to Remiden
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Or option C. Sark leaves now, wins a couple of big 10 championships, doesn't sniff a NC because Texas brass constantly meddles, and gets fired like Brown, Strong, etc. Meanwhile Bama wins two or three more NCs.
Your downvote probably came because your options implied that Bama would only win a NC with Sark as OC.
My options implied no such thing. My options implied nothing more than the fact that many on this board want Sark to make the decision that's best for Alabama, not what's the best career move for him. My options implied that posters here would rather Alabama win championships regardless of who's here, and that what Sark is able to accomplish professionally anywhere else takes a back seat to that. One seriously stated that he needed to stay here 5 more years so that he could learn more fron Saban and be a part of "something special".
Even your option C trumps staying in Sark's mind, because winning two Big 12 conference championships and being in the playoffs as a head coach trumps anything at Bama as an assistant. He would walk away with a huge payday and still be hireable at any major program with that resume. He'd be way farther ahead of the game than if he just spent 5 more years as an OC. If you can't grasp that, there's literally no helping you.
Really, your post is incredibly idiotic, and indicative of exactly the posters I'm talking about. Texas hasn't won a Big 12 championship in 11 years. The 2005 and 2009 championships are the only time they have won two in a five year period in the history of the conference. You didn't know that, because, well, you don't really know much other than to toss out Brown and Strong's names as if you know what you're talking about. Strong was fired for being a shitty coach with nothing but losing seasons in 3 years. And Brown won a NC, was in another NCG, and won both of those conference championships, then had four bad seasons.
But you say the boosters would fire Sark if he won two Big 12 championships in 5 years, even though it's only been done once before, and they only have won 3 championships in the 25 year history of the conference.
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 1/4/21 at 1:28 pm to BamaGradinTn
Did you not read your options before you posted them? One has Sark staying and winning 3 championships, the other has him leaving and specifically states Bama wins zero championships.
Not sure what idiot universe you live in where you don't understand you implied that Bama only wins with Sark, as you literally said they win 3 with him and zero without him.
And that makes your post more ignorant than mine, as you stated Sark would win 2 championships and you added a NC to it. I stopped at a couple of championships.
But hey, this is all your bullshite. Make it as deep derpy as you want.
And i never said boosters. I said brass. Read better.
Or edit your post to take out they stupid crap you said.
Not sure what idiot universe you live in where you don't understand you implied that Bama only wins with Sark, as you literally said they win 3 with him and zero without him.
And that makes your post more ignorant than mine, as you stated Sark would win 2 championships and you added a NC to it. I stopped at a couple of championships.
But hey, this is all your bullshite. Make it as deep derpy as you want.
And i never said boosters. I said brass. Read better.
Or edit your post to take out they stupid crap you said.
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/4/21 at 1:33 pm to Remiden
Are you really this stupid? Never mind...we already know the answer to that. I merely threw out two sample options and suggested which people might choose. It takes a special type of stupid to think I meant those as the only possibilities.
Seriously, man...go find some brain cells somewhere and come back. Then we can have an intelligent conversation. Because I just proved in my last post that you aren't very knowledgeable.
Seriously, man...go find some brain cells somewhere and come back. Then we can have an intelligent conversation. Because I just proved in my last post that you aren't very knowledgeable.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 1:35 pm to Remiden
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and you added a NC to it.
And where the frick did I say this, dumbass? I said get in the playoffs, which as a Big 12 champ he very well could.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 1:35 pm to BamaGradinTn
Ok, keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you feel smart.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 1:37 pm to Remiden
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Ok, keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you feel smart.
I think you've proven which of us is smart.
Where did I say anything about Sark winning a NC at Texas?
You're in a hole pal. Stop digging.
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