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re: Texas, TAMU, FSU and Ark were supposed to join the SEC in 1992
Posted on 12/2/20 at 3:54 pm to dchog
Posted on 12/2/20 at 3:54 pm to dchog
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If I remember correctly the Big 10 had the reputation as the strongest conference in college football in the 90s.
I think it was the Big Ten or Big Eight and then the Big 12 in the late 90s. Up to 2001 the big 12 had the following win the conference and/or make contend for NCs: UT, OU, K-State, A&M, Nebraska, and Colorado. The Big 12 North and A&M went off a cliff after the early 00s it seems
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 4:01 pm
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:04 pm to Mithridates6
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’Everyone in there hated everybody.’
Truth.
Folks talk about the hatred between Ohio State-Michigan, Alabama-Auburn, Oklahoma-UTex, etc.
Those are individual, healthy (though heated) rivalries.
In the SWC, a feral level of hatred—with the possible exception of Arkansas—was experienced by each school towards everyone else in the conference.
The infighting was/is toxic.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:04 pm to dchog
quote:Yes, exactly. Arkansas was a good athletic program. The one thing Arkansas lacked that the SEC really wanted at the time was TV sets, but Kramer was hoping he might lure either UT (not likely, given their West Coad preference) or A&M as a partner to address that. UH had a crap program, with no following. Other than being a fellow Texas public school so that A&M wouldn't have been going alone, they offered nothing. UH wasn't even close to comparable to USC when it came to attractiveness as an expansion candidate.
I think the problem with Houston like Memphis is that they are commuter schools and wouldn't provide the SEC in academics or athletics.
Arkansas was more enticing because they contenders in football, basketball and baseball. A well rounded school. Also Broyles was friends with the SEC comminsioner and that helped.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:13 pm to Mithridates6
quote:I'm sure the SEC money would help FSU, but that is a really interesting situation. There was a recent ESPN article on the long-standing disfunction in the FSU athletic department that really was enlightening. Their basic structure (where the booster fundraising organization actually has an equal or greater say than the AD in how their money is spent) is a real structural weakness. Combine that with a shallow donor pool (it was an all girls school--the Florida State College for Women--until after WWII), and Bobby Bowden's history of making do with less, and you've got a school that was really set up for a big fall. It's a credit to Bowden (and to a lesser extent, to Jimbo) that they put it off as long as they did, but now they are paying the toll.
It's been a win-win for the four expansion schools in everything except for football titles; otoh all four have top 5 finishes since joining the SEC and presumably it would've been much harder to recruit on a national level in the Big 12 or ACC as programs that weren't blue bloods. Look at FSU: they had a great run dominating the ACC but now they're depleted and have sub-par revenue and unlike Clemson they can't make up for the smaller conference payout
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:17 pm to twk
Yes the state of Arkansas wouldn't provide anything with TV but a lot hog fans and alumni live in the Dallas metro area where our largest alumni base is located.
Still the SEC would get exposure from the Dallas area.
Still the SEC would get exposure from the Dallas area.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:19 pm to dchog
Well now that Texas in is the SEC footprint with the addition of A&M, Arkansas offers very little as far as TV goes.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:38 pm to Hill Country
Arkansas has offered little in TV long before A&M joined. But we still got accepted.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:49 pm to dstone12
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:21 pm to Mithridates6
Lol Kyle Field North
So true
So true
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:29 am to XWing atAliciousness
I remember all of those things. Cougar high, Kyle Field North, and the last days of the SWC
Posted on 12/3/20 at 6:30 am to drivebyag
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Thanks for the memories! Sarge drug his nuts across you for days.
For 50 pages, Sarge went all deloss Dodd, big12 board room, cheese grits was there in the board room mopping the floor etc.
And you were just there with the worst one liners. Of all the aggy posters, you’re not the worst, but you are the brick tamland of this board. It’s been a while, but I forgot how I can call you and sausage in Like the cows. So predictable it’s like CLOCKWORK
This is my favorite triggering of all time.
dstone
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If you can get DrivebyAg to bite on this thread you’ll have 3 or 4 hilariously pathetic replies. But that’s about it. Poor kid peters out quick. This post was edited on 12/5 at 1:26 pm
Driveby
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It's called having a job dip shite but you would know that when you delivered my cobb salad today. I hope you enjoyed the tip as you looked like you needed it. ReplyOptionsTop
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 6:36 am
Posted on 12/3/20 at 7:54 am to Mithridates6
How would that have worked geographically? That’s three western schools and one eastern school. And if they moved either Alabama or Auburn to the East, the Auburn/Georgia rivalry or the Tennessee/Alabama rivalry would have had to be sacrificed.
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