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Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:15 pm to CrimsonBoz
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:15 pm to CrimsonBoz
Traditional Constitutionalists like myself. I owe you a beer IRL. Until we have a viable 3rd party candidate the current political scene will never change. Term limits would help but that’s a pipe dream.
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:25 pm to FWBFLlaw
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Until we have a viable 3rd party candidate the current political scene will never change. Term limits would help but that’s a pipe dream.
Ranked choice voting would be much more conducive to promoting minor parties than term limits. But ultimately in order to actually crack the 2 party system we would need a new constitution that does away with first past the post elections and establishes a parliamentary system with proportional representation. Literally zero chance that ever happens though.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:39 pm to CrimsonBoz
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How do you think the previous administration turned the population against law enforcement so quickly?
You really think people had any trust in law enforcement to begin with?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:58 pm to imraged
This is an admission that Democrats used this emergency as a political opportunity to lard up a bill with an amendment that 1) they will crow about to their constituents, and 2) is repugnant to the other side, this stupidly and unnecessarily delaying the passage of the bill.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:32 pm to LovetheLord
It's f/n shameful what Pelosi is sneaking in on the bill while all the while using the threat of not condemning our president as a bargaining chip.
Now, the old woman's decision to close our schools? Then the daycares are to follow? Wat the frick?
Now, the old woman's decision to close our schools? Then the daycares are to follow? Wat the frick?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:07 pm to Robot Santa
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Ranked choice voting would be much more conducive to promoting minor parties than term limits. But ultimately in order to actually crack the 2 party system we would need a new constitution that does away with first past the post elections and establishes a parliamentary system with proportional representation. Literally zero chance that ever happens though.
Simple, feasible and valid (proven) way(s) to eliminate the root cause(s) of our fundamentally broken (and therefore corrupt & dysfunctional) political system:
Limit contribution(s) to a candidate's campaign fund by an individual or organization to $100 and disallow commercial campaigning/advertising, including via TV, radio, internet, signage, billboards, etc. Require all candidates to publish their platform, stance on issues, etc. on an official election candidates' website. Limit campaign speeches, debates etc. to publication on one official election candidates' website and public/educational TV & radio networks.
It doesn't really have to cost $Ms to campaign for and win an election. Legislation is needed to eliminate it. Anyone should be able to afford to run for office and win an election. Also, legislate strict limitations on what lobbyists can do. It's needed. Elected officials must become beholden to and truly represent and work for the people who elected them to office, based on their publicized platorm and stance on issues, not the wealthy powerful special interests who made huge donations to put them in office. Our federal government is literally supposed to be "by the people for the people" not "controlled and corrupted by the rich for the rich to get richer, by taking advantage of the people."
Without such reforms, it is a waste of time and energy to even discuss US federal government and politics. (That's why I don't bother with doing it.) Our democratic "system" is fundamentally flawed and the result is an extremely corrupt federal government. It actually is fixable. But it'll be really difficult to get the needed election reform legislation passed. Some other countries have made these kinds of election reforms and it actually fixed their broken, corrupt governments.
The sheeple in the US don't learn anything about this kind of stuff via the mainstream media though. Everyone can carry on being sheeple, wasting time on mainstream media propaganda and debating about corrupt democrat politicians vs corrupt republican politicians (the only ones we can really elect) and the resulting symptoms of their power over you; OR wake up, research how fix the root cause and spread the truth all over the internet. Which will it be?
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:16 pm to LovetheLord
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This is an admission
Uhhhh, no?
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Democrats had already agreed to make some changes to the bill, outlined in a managers' amendment submitted by House Appropriations Chairwoman Nita M. Lowey, D-N.Y.
The changes would clarify that reimbursements for uninsured COVID-19 testing at diagnostic laboratories can't cover individuals receiving other testing assistance in the bill, and that Medicaid coverage only applies to COVID-19 tests, as well as tighten exemptions from work search and other state unemployment assistance rules.
Again, no one reputable has reported anything about the original bill including anything about abortion. There's no way it would override the Hyde amendment anyway and the Dems agreed to close the non-existent loophole from the start. This is literally "virtue signalling" by Republican congress people
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:43 pm to CrimsonBoz
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How do you think the previous administration turned the population against law enforcement so quickly?
By inventing cameras and framing good cops with their shite behavior caught on film
Posted on 3/13/20 at 11:45 pm to MoarKilometers
My son in law is a police officer and I can assure you. He just wants to make it home alive after each shift..
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:04 am to TideCPA
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I’ve lost any faith I ever had that our society could successfully navigate a bonafide crisis.
Agreed. Maybe we'll learn something from this clearly overblown panic, because this is going to pass within weeks.
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:05 am to imraged
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Again, no one reputable has reported anything about the original bill including anything about abortion.
Wrong. They changed it after they saw the outrage. Even Joy Reid came out against it.
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 8:28 am to MoarKilometers
Which statistically helped departments and also hurt people committing crime.
It’s a two fold situation:
1. People need to get back to trusting law enforcement.
2. Law enforcement need to get back to being part of the community, they have alienated themselves.
1 and 2 were all part of a social media and previous administration strike against LE that systematically separated people from LE and visa versa. It worked like a charm. It’s a top down driven narrative.
It’s a two fold situation:
1. People need to get back to trusting law enforcement.
2. Law enforcement need to get back to being part of the community, they have alienated themselves.
1 and 2 were all part of a social media and previous administration strike against LE that systematically separated people from LE and visa versa. It worked like a charm. It’s a top down driven narrative.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 8:44 am to TidalSurge1
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Simple, feasible and valid way to fix our broken dysfunctional political system: Limit maximum contribution(s) to any candidate's campaign fund by an individual or organization to $100 and disallow commercial campaign advertising (including TV, radio, internet, signage, billboards, etc. Require all candidates to publish their platform, stance on issues, etc. on an official election candidates' website. Limit campaign speeches, debates etc. to publication on the official election candidates' website and public/educational TV & radio networks.
Term limits and re-writing the constitution are both substantially more likely than getting money out of politics in this country.
I 100% agree with you though. Elections should be publicly funded, Citizens United should be overturned, PACs and Super PACs should be outlawed, and the maximum personal donation should be somewhere in the $250-1000 range. All of these things should happen, but never will because that would mean Congress has to give up those sweet sweet lobbyist dollars.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 8:54 am to Robot Santa
We have term limits. It's at the ballot box. The problem is most people are entrenched in their side and won't vote for the other party, and incumbents have a HUGE advantage and are often tough to beat in a primary. They should just ban all political fundraising except for a specified period of time. Most legislators spend a good share of their time in DC fundraising for their next campaign.
We are approaching a huge problem in DC in a few years as the older Reps and Senators decide to retire. Some of them have become worthless, but we have so few true policy wonks that can draft bills. That void is going to be filled by special interests, and that has already started. The recent tax cut bill was largely written by special interests, as are many other bills. The problem is even worse at the state level. I forget which bill it was a few years ago that was passed and signed into law in Alabama, but the text of the bill was almost a verbatim copy of a sample bill on the website for a well known think tank. Term limits would likely exasperate this problem.
We are approaching a huge problem in DC in a few years as the older Reps and Senators decide to retire. Some of them have become worthless, but we have so few true policy wonks that can draft bills. That void is going to be filled by special interests, and that has already started. The recent tax cut bill was largely written by special interests, as are many other bills. The problem is even worse at the state level. I forget which bill it was a few years ago that was passed and signed into law in Alabama, but the text of the bill was almost a verbatim copy of a sample bill on the website for a well known think tank. Term limits would likely exasperate this problem.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:31 am to The Spleen
I don't disagree with you. I'm not really a big proponent of term limits on legislators. It sacrifices experience and skill for the possibility that legislators won't govern with an eye toward re-election, but at the end of the day term limits do nothing to curb special interests getting candidates elected and supplying the cooperative ones with cushy lobbying jobs afterwards.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:39 am to Robot Santa
I'll just add that was there was just one presidential candidate this cycle that talked of changing the DC paradigm and rooting out corruption, and actually had a substantial plan to do just that - Elizabeth Warren. Hopefully now that she's out she'll use her Senate seat to try to affect some of that change.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:46 am to The Spleen
Spleen, I am a socially conscious conservative and I have no problem voting for someone from either party that best represents my views and wishes. I am not entrenched for either party and I think most intelligent people who educate themselves on the issues aren't. IMHO, the problem is the polarization of the two choices we now have. I find myself voting Republican 95% of the time since Ronald Reagan because while the GOP has moved toward the right end of the spectrum, the Dems have swung SO far left as to be untenable for most middle class Americans. When Bernie Sanders and AOC are some of the mainstream faces of your party and your platform is socialized medicine, increased taxes on "the rich" (but when you do the math, "rich" equals anyone making $100,000 a year), government giveaways to illegal aliens, felons, and professional societal parasites, how does anyone that is a middle class working family person vote for them?
The GOP doesn't represent the middle class; I'm fully aware of that. Their policies benefit big business and deep pocketed people much more than the middle, but at least they aren't actively trying to destroy the middle class and doing it overtly with stupid socialist policies that are bad for everyone that isn't looking for a handout.
The GOP doesn't represent the middle class; I'm fully aware of that. Their policies benefit big business and deep pocketed people much more than the middle, but at least they aren't actively trying to destroy the middle class and doing it overtly with stupid socialist policies that are bad for everyone that isn't looking for a handout.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:53 am to imjustafatkid
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I’ve lost any faith I ever had that our society could successfully navigate a bonafide crisis.
Agreed. Maybe we'll learn something from this clearly overblown panic, because this is going to pass within weeks.
The only thing this stupid shite does is numb people to when the real crisis show up. You cry wolf one too many times and people stop reacting. You can see it with the hurricane warnings. The Weather Channel sensationalizes them all now to the point where every big storm is the "storm of the century" and people start thinking they can ride out a Cat 5 because the last Cat 5, errr 2 wasn't shite. So when the real bad arse Cat 5 comes, like Katrina and Michael, people stay, systems fail, and bad things happen like deaths because people become deadened to the warnings.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:34 am to CrimsonBoz
N/m
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:19 am to TizzyT4theUofA
I wish they could suspend politics until the sports seasons can get started back .
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