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re: Is Texas really a blue blood?
Posted on 2/21/20 at 1:55 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Posted on 2/21/20 at 1:55 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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LSU has a winning record against every team in the big12 except our 8-9-1 record to you. Guess we would have won a bunch more conf champs if we were over there...
This OldSchoolHorn guy has you totally pegged. Before you even posted that, he wrote this:
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It's all relative to era.. go back to Texas' record vs the SEC overall over the years & "if you weren't playing in a week conference" rhetoric becomes laughable.
Problem is most posters aren't familiar with CFB history, data analysis or are just plain dumb.
That's next level shite right there.
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 2:03 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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There is no controversy about 2003. We won the Natty on the field. Isn't that what you bammers like to say?
But LSU did not play the AP #1 team in the country that year so this argument doesn't really work here.
Most Bama fans say the trophy is what counts. LSU has one of the two major trophies for that year, so anyone saying LSU didn't win a title in 2003 is an idiot. But to be clear, you also look like an idiot with your Baghdad Bob 'there is no controversy!!!!!' routine. AP Titles always have mattered.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 2:30 pm to GoGators04
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Is Texas really a blue blood?
Only if you think programs like Michigan and Florida are blue bloods.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 2:33 pm to thatthang
quote:Lol man, you know good and well you wouldn't be saying this if it were Bama with the crystal ball and USC with the AP trophy.
thatthang
Truth is the BCS title is a non-mythical championship. The AP title is gif of that is just like your opinion man.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 2:47 pm to PurpleandGeauld
I would not deny that the title was split, because I do not deny objective fact. Now, I would think it was absolute and complete horsehit 
The AP has awarded 84 trophies, I believe. And every one of those is claimed by the respective schools.
The NCAA doesn't officially recognize titles, but this is as good as we're going to get comparing titles across the history of college football. Check it out:
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The AP has awarded 84 trophies, I believe. And every one of those is claimed by the respective schools.
The NCAA doesn't officially recognize titles, but this is as good as we're going to get comparing titles across the history of college football. Check it out:
LINK
Posted on 2/21/20 at 3:10 pm to thatthang
quote:Ok now you're being reasonable.
Now, I would think it was absolute and complete horsehit
Posted on 2/21/20 at 3:25 pm to lsufanva
They basically played directional and small private schools from their own state for most of that win total.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 3:33 pm to thatthang
The BCS is what USC agreed to though.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:10 pm to OldSchoolHorn
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hen go through every key metric one would rate programs on & see where Texas ranks.
Dont care.....you've sucked dong lately...own it ya queer steer!
Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:12 pm to RogerTempleton
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Only if you think programs like Michigan and Florida are blue bloods.
Michigan most certainly is. We aren’t (Bama is the only SEC one).
Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:42 pm to Korin
Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:49 pm to AustinKnight
Longhorns own the Aggies. so I guess they are.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:12 pm to GoGators04
As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago....
Ultimate Blue Bloods:
- Alabama
Blue Bloods:
- Notre Dame
- Southern California
- Ohio State
- Oklahoma
Borderline Blue Bloods:
- Penn State
- Florida
- Louisiana State
- Florida State
- Texas
Former Blue Blood Status with an Identity Crisis:
- Tennessee
- Michigan
- Miami
- Nebraska
- Minnesota (Special Invite)
Awaiting Borderline Status:
- Georgia
- Clemson
- Auburn
- Washington
- Michigan State
Programs That Have Done Work But Are Looking For Any Kind of Established Identity That Will Move Them Upward:
1. Oregon
2. Wisconsin
3. Stanford
4. Texas A&M*
5. Virginia Tech
6. Pittsburgh*
7. Georgia Tech*
8. UCLA*
9. Colorado*
10. Texas Christian*
11. Brigham Young*
12. Arkansas
13. Utah
14. West Virginia
15. Kansas State
16. Syracuse*
17. Arizona State
18. Oklahoma State
19. Iowa
20. Maryland*
21. Mississippi
22. Baylor
23. Missouri
24. Louisville
25. Boise State
* denotes an AP and/or UPI title won
Ultimate Blue Bloods:
- Alabama
Blue Bloods:
- Notre Dame
- Southern California
- Ohio State
- Oklahoma
Borderline Blue Bloods:
- Penn State
- Florida
- Louisiana State
- Florida State
- Texas
Former Blue Blood Status with an Identity Crisis:
- Tennessee
- Michigan
- Miami
- Nebraska
- Minnesota (Special Invite)
Awaiting Borderline Status:
- Georgia
- Clemson
- Auburn
- Washington
- Michigan State
Programs That Have Done Work But Are Looking For Any Kind of Established Identity That Will Move Them Upward:
1. Oregon
2. Wisconsin
3. Stanford
4. Texas A&M*
5. Virginia Tech
6. Pittsburgh*
7. Georgia Tech*
8. UCLA*
9. Colorado*
10. Texas Christian*
11. Brigham Young*
12. Arkansas
13. Utah
14. West Virginia
15. Kansas State
16. Syracuse*
17. Arizona State
18. Oklahoma State
19. Iowa
20. Maryland*
21. Mississippi
22. Baylor
23. Missouri
24. Louisville
25. Boise State
* denotes an AP and/or UPI title won
Posted on 2/21/20 at 7:27 pm to Belue2Scott
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Does Texas ever plan on getting that win back from Kirksville Osteopath?
We were the better team... just didn't want to be there.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 7:50 pm to GoGators04
No. They are a trashy school with trashy fans.
Austin would be best served by just demolishing the university and turning it into a park or affordable housing.
Austin would be best served by just demolishing the university and turning it into a park or affordable housing.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:08 pm to bgtiger
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They basically played directional and small private schools from their own state for most of that win total.
Games vs Blue Bloods: Texas 154 LSU 122
Wins vs Blue Bloods: Texas 87 LSU 43
Now realize Texas didn't have a conference foe that was a Blue Blood til 1996.
IOW, you are a dumb frick.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:12 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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No. They are a trashy school with trashy fans.
From a Mississippi State fan, we have raised the bar to the point that all dumb fricks better eat their wheaties.. new boss in town.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:12 pm to BamaRoo
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That's a rather, uhhh, interesting thought process.
Perception and interest are factors. I think the program still has to draw interest even when it’s down. Miami has won five national titles but no one gives a frick about them anymore, even in Florida.
My blue bloods: Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan, USC, Ohio State, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska. I do, however, think college football has passed by the Cornhuskers and that they won’t be on this list much longer. If Scott Frost doesn’t get it done, I don’t think anyone else will. Nebraska hasn’t been worth a shite since they ran the I.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:44 pm to OldSchoolHorn
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Lol.. how many of the categories is LSU top 10, regardless of the merit towards the topic?
Conf Champs? No
All time wins? No
Winning %? No
Those are good tools to use when measuring a school’s accomplishments, but they have flaws.
Notre Dame has zero conference championships. Other schools drifted in and out of conferences for decades. It’s hard to count conference championships when a school isn’t in a conference.
SEC schools are always going to be lacking in total championships because they have 6 teams that are historical Top 20 programs. It’s hard to win your conference when there is that amount of legitimate competition, and that’s in addition to blue blood Alabama.
Michigan racked up over 100 wins before 1900. Then in the the early 1900’s schools were playing vastly different schedules. Some schools would have 10,11,12 games, while others would only play 5 or 6.
That’s important because schools only had a handful of legitimate competition. They would schedule YMCAs, medical schools, alumni chapters, or intramural squads from small colleges early in the season as a preseason warmup to the big games later in the season. Most of these games were a joke even back then, but they now count towards the official win totals. The more games played usually meant more cupcakes on the schedule.
Winning percentage isn’t without its flaws. Is Boise State a blue blood? They have the best winning percentage. Even schools like Penn St and FSU were often playing questionable competition in the 40’s, 50’s and into the 60’s as independents.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:40 am to ryker
Darell Royal and Texas were the epitome of having 3 crappy or mediocre seasons and then a good one. He did this over and over. He came into Texas in 1957 and took about 4 years . And then had a descent team in 61. He then had about a 4 year run with some good squads up to 64. He then goes off the rails for a few years until 68,69,70, in 1971 he has a good year followed by 72. In 1973 it goes off the rails again with a absolute disaster in 76 followed by a good year in 1977.
Akers and Williams have some descent years but Texas falls away until Brown and he struggled for a few but won them a title in 2005. But Browns last few years were awful and Strong was a disaster. Tom Herman doesn’t seem to be much better. I don’t know if the fans will allow a coach today to stay as long to build up a good squad. You better be humming by your second year because you want get a fourth.
Akers and Williams have some descent years but Texas falls away until Brown and he struggled for a few but won them a title in 2005. But Browns last few years were awful and Strong was a disaster. Tom Herman doesn’t seem to be much better. I don’t know if the fans will allow a coach today to stay as long to build up a good squad. You better be humming by your second year because you want get a fourth.
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