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Is it time for Vandy to leave the SEC?

Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:42 am
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:42 am
Going back to the 2014-2015 Academic Year, if you take the SEC Standings of most of the major sports, Vanderbilt is by far the worst athletic program.

Football:

1. Alabama: 43-5
2. Georgia: 36-12
3. LSU: 33-15
4. Florida: 31-17
5. Auburn: 26-22
6. Texas A&M: 24-24
6. Miss St.: 24-24
8. Missouri: 21-27
9. Kentucky: 20-28
10. S. Carolina: 19-29
10. Tennessee: 19-29
10. Ole Miss: 19-29
13. Arkansas: 11-37
14. Vanderbilt: 10-38

Men's Basketball:

1. Kentucky: 75-21
2. Florida: 61-35
3. S. Carolina: 56-40
4. Tennessee: 54-42
4. Arkansas: 54-42
6. Alabama: 48-48
7. Auburn: 47-49
7. Texas A&M: 47-49
9. Ole Miss: 46-50
10. LSU: 45-51
11. Miss. St.: 41-55
12. Georgia: 38-58
13. Vanderbilt: 37-59
14. Missouri: 23-71

Women's Basketball:

1. S. Carolina: 77-10
2. Miss St.: 72-15
3. Texas A&M: 58-29
4. Tennessee: 57-30
5. Kentucky: 52-34
6. Missouri: 49-38
7. Georgia: 46-41
8. LSU: 43-44
9. Auburn: 33-53
10. Arkansas: 28-59
11. Florida: 28-59
12. Alabama: 25-62
13. Vanderbilt: 21-66
14. Ole Miss: 19-68

SEC Softball:

**Vandy is only team in the SEC without a team

I mean obviously they more than carry their weight in baseball, but that's the only sport that really matters in which they field a competitive program these days.

I feel like the current atmosphere in college athletics just doesn't support a school like Vanderbilt with the ability to compete. At this point, they are bringing zero value to the league. I understand they are a Charter member of the conference, but at some point they either need to invest in competing in athletics or drop out.
Posted by LeConte
You're nosy.
Member since Jan 2020
363 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:45 am to
Nah. Nashville needs to be an SEC city.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19752 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:46 am to
If you are going to reference softball...why not baseball? I bet I know why.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15471 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:46 am to
That is never going to happen. P5 conferences do not kick out members
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5193 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:46 am to
Nah. All those rich Vandy grads just need to embrace their inner bagman
Posted by RichardT
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2005
1472 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:47 am to
They aren’t going anywhere. They LOVE that SEC check they get at the end of the year.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:47 am to
Nope
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11559 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:51 am to
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:52 am to
speaking of bad, why is Georgia's men's basketball program so historically bad? Sure, they had that great run in 1983 but obviously that was an anomaly.

Athens is close to Atlanta, the state has good HS basketball but save 3 or 4 years Georgia basketball has been a dumpster fire since the SEC's inception.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22426 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:52 am to
Don’t be stupid! Vandy has a more recent NC than UGA in the big 3
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18229 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:15 am to
Last national championship in big 3 sports:

Vanderbilt: 2019
Georgia: 1990


Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47820 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:17 am to
I could get on board with this had you said Missouri
Posted by Morgus
The Old City Icehouse
Member since May 2004
9128 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:26 am to
We need them to keep up our GPA.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:29 am to
Every conference needs a private school for FOIA.
Posted by Rebel85
Nashville
Member since Dec 2019
356 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:35 am to
Vanderbilt wins in baseball and will be back in basketball eventually. They are academically superior to everyone else and produces some tremendous grads. They produce some good NFL talent too, believe it or not. And like someone said earlier, P5 conferences don't kick out their members. Besides, the SEC is set up the way it is to capture TV markets and MAKE MONEY. No one gives up the Nashville market, everrrrrrrr.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:42 am to
If you take the Winning % since the 2014-2015 Academic year in each of the Big 5 sports and then multiply them based on importance:

Football = 50%
M Basketball = 20%
Baseball = 15%
W Basketball = 7.5%
Softball = 7.5%

Here is how the Athletic Programs rank with the bigger sports weighted more heavily:

1. Alabama- 0.710
2. Georgia- 0.624
3. Florida- 0.597
4. LSU- 0.585
5. Auburn- 0.524
6. Texas A&M- 0.519
7. Kentucky- 0.517
8. Miss St.- 0.503
9. S. Carolina- 0.483
10. Tennessee- 0.461
11. Ole Miss- 0.407
12. Missouri- 0.407
13. Arkansas- 0.319
14. Vanderbilt- 0.292

It's actually closer at the bottom then I would have thought with Arky being so terrible in some of the bigger sports.... There is a gigantic gap between Missouri and those bottom 2.

The thing is, Vandy seems to be trending worse in most every sport other than Baseball.

Again, I just don't see what they offer to the league these days.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17344 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:32 pm to
Terrible take. Vandy is an original member.

They havent had a great stretch in basketball lately thanks to two terrible hires but they are normally one of the bigger league pains in UKs arse.

Their basketball and baseball programs are better than Georgia's traditionally OP. You need a reality check.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 12:33 pm
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49488 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:33 pm to
If you don't want them, we'll take them and give you A&M.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
7359 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:38 pm to
No baseball breakdown?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25195 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:40 pm to
which school has the most recent National Championship?
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