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Anti-flopping rule?
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:52 pm
Won't be surprised to see an attempt to tweak the rules this off-season, as rampant and obvious as it was.
Problem is, muh player safety.
If a player is too injured to get off the field between snaps, what mandatory cost do y'all think the NCAA can enforce?
Problem is, muh player safety.
If a player is too injured to get off the field between snaps, what mandatory cost do y'all think the NCAA can enforce?
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:53 pm to 19
I think that the only remedy they can realistically enforce is some sort of minimum number of plays missed for a player coming off the field.
And even that will be met with some serious blowback.
And even that will be met with some serious blowback.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:54 pm to 19
There already is an anti-flopping rule but don't expect refs to start calling it because it's almost impossible to determine whether a player was flopping in the moment and with the heightened awareness for player safety, I wouldn't expect much to change unless you want even slower games with them reviewing injuries too.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:54 pm to 19
Make him miss the entire series and not just one play.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:55 pm to 19
If a player goes down due to injury to the point that the game is stopped he should be held out the rest of the possession. probably this would be difficult to track for enforcement, but 1 play is stupid.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:56 pm to 19
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Problem is, muh player safety.
Not only that ... but as obvious as it is in many situations (my team was embarrassingly guilty of it last season), ultimately, how can you prove it?
Really the only thing to do is to make all players who leave the field with an “injury” sit out for more than one play.
And that’s not always right either.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:04 pm to EKG
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Not only that ... but as obvious as it is in many situations (my team was embarrassingly guilty of it last season), ultimately, how can you prove it?
I was thinking as opposed to "proving" a fake injury, any stoppage of time within the last 10 sec of play clock due to injury will cost a TO, and if the team has no TO remaining, then the offense is awarded a 1st.
Something to deter the egregious shite...get off the field if you can, but if you can't, you better be down since the previous whistle.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:09 pm to 19
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Problem is, muh player safety.
Agreed. Players that are too hurt to get up before a time stoppage are too hurt to come back in on the next play. Maybe sit a full possession in order to check for injuries...
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:10 pm to 19
I hear ya.
And I agree.
And I agree.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:40 pm to 19
Simple,
Person comes off for an injury, they have to stay out for the remainder of the series (i.e., until the next change of possession).
You can still fake it, but you better be damned sure it's worth it.
Of course, the "work around" is you substitute a scrub for the injury.
Person comes off for an injury, they have to stay out for the remainder of the series (i.e., until the next change of possession).
You can still fake it, but you better be damned sure it's worth it.
Of course, the "work around" is you substitute a scrub for the injury.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:56 pm to udtiger
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Of course, the "work around" is you substitute a scrub for the injury.
That wouldn't work. The reaon they're flopping is so that the defense can substitute. If you could get a scrub in to flop, you wouldn't have to flop - unless you've already got a scrub in there you're trying to get out, but the pace of the offense won't let you.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:58 pm to 19
This should be a reviewable play like targeting. If player walks to the huddle or line, looks at the sideline, then falls down like he's been shot it's a penalty.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:00 pm to udtiger
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Person comes off for an injury, they have to stay out for the remainder of the series (i.e., until the next change of possession).
So lets say QB gets hit pretty hard and gets the wind knocked out of him. normally Has to sit out a play, now an entire series. No issues with that?
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:04 pm to NYCAuburn
Trial by fire. If the player doesn't burn to death, he was really hurt.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:05 pm to NYCAuburn
I think if they add that they also need to add something that standardizes the speed at which refs spot a ball. Sure they should hurry, within the tempo of the offense, but at no point do I think they should be running around trying to get the ball set so fast you question the accuracy of the spots themselves. Hurry up is like the diamond in Softball, it’s outgrown the sport and I think these plays we see teams snapping the ball in like 5-8 seconds is a tad bit ridiculous and turns the game into a joke.
Now within the final minutes of the quarter they should certainly have more haste, but I just think if we got the hurry to a more regulated snap count we would also see a downtick in flopping. Football is supposed to be a chess match, not a circus.
Now within the final minutes of the quarter they should certainly have more haste, but I just think if we got the hurry to a more regulated snap count we would also see a downtick in flopping. Football is supposed to be a chess match, not a circus.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:28 pm to NYCAuburn
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Person comes off for an injury, they have to stay out for the remainder of the series (i.e., until the next change of possession).
So lets say QB gets hit pretty hard and gets the wind knocked out of him. normally Has to sit out a play, now an entire series. No issues with that?
I mean it has to go on both offense and defense. The bad side to this would be you have players that could use a snap on the sidelines toughing out possible concussions or have some ankle tweak and the player trying to make it through because he doesnt want to miss the rest of the series. Imagine a potential winning drive and one of your best players gets a cramp and has to miss the rest of the drive. Its hard to police it correctly.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:32 pm to NYCAuburn
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So lets say QB gets hit pretty hard and gets the wind knocked out of him. normally Has to sit out a play, now an entire series. No issues with that?
keep in the time-out negation policy. if this happens offense can choose to burn a timeout.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:38 pm to BROpaneTANK
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I think if they add that they also need to add something that standardizes the speed at which refs spot a ball.
Something like having an additional official whose sole purpose is to spot the ball? Something like what the XFL does?
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:47 pm to BearBait09
quote:and when they run out of timeouts? Beginning of the season has at least 4-5 cramp injuries a game. Lets just be honest, there really isnt a way to do it and its not really out of control or a giant problem. If a team isnt winning a game because their offense or defense had to wait a few extra seconds(without game clock being removed), then they had other issues.
keep in the time-out negation policy. if this happens offense can choose to burn a timeout.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:00 pm to 19
They can’t penalize a team for a player flopping, but they can implement a rule stating that a player who goes down with cramps or injury cannot re-enter the game for the remainder of the possession and the following possession. Or it could be the remainder of the quarter or half.
I’d be okay with something like that being given a 1 or 2 year trial run with the option of making it permanent if it delivers the desired results.
I’d be okay with something like that being given a 1 or 2 year trial run with the option of making it permanent if it delivers the desired results.
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