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re: Anti-flopping rule?
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:05 pm to NYCAuburn
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:05 pm to NYCAuburn
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So lets say QB gets hit pretty hard and gets the wind knocked out of him. normally Has to sit out a play, now an entire series. No issues with that?
Easy fix: Make an exception for players hit while or after possessing the ball.
I think we can all agree that a ball carrier who goes down because of a hard hit is completely different than a defender who either wasn’t knocked down or got back up and then flopped.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:07 pm to themicah85
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The bad side to this would be you have players that could use a snap on the sidelines toughing out possible concussions or have some ankle tweak and the player trying to make it through because he doesnt want to miss the rest of the series
Exempt ball carriers from the rule.
If someone injured an ankle, then they should be medically evaluated and being withheld for a series or a quarter is probably in his best interests health wise.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I think that the only remedy they can realistically enforce is some sort of minimum number of plays missed for a player coming off the field.
And even that will be met with some serious blowback.
Yep. One play is not enough. maybe the remainder of the series? Or at least 4 plays.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:09 pm to Philippines4LSU
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I think we can all agree that a ball carrier who goes down because of a hard hit is completely different than a defender who either wasn’t knocked down or got back up and then flopped.
it would be really hard for officials to keep track of 22 different people in a matter of seconds, especially if the player down was away from the play. They already have enough trouble seeing and calling penalties correctly, now we want to trust them to monitor flopping?
Honestly, I just don't see a good outcome unless they implement a replay system and let coaches challenge flops, and I'm not sure I, or others, would want that either.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:10 pm to NYCAuburn
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Lets just be honest, there really isnt a way to do it and its not really out of control or a giant problem. If a team isnt winning a game because their offense or defense had to wait a few extra seconds(without game clock being removed), then they had other issues.
agreed
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:13 pm to Philippines4LSU
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fix: Make an exception for players hit while or after possessing the ball.
So only offensive players, yeah not easy...
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:23 pm to 19
Is flopping that big of a deal we need new rules? It seems to only affect teams that run a hurry up style offense.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:27 pm to BearBait09
Yall hit this one on the head. Game stoppage for injury needs to be sent to the tent for evaluation
Posted on 1/24/20 at 5:25 pm to NYCAuburn
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Beginning of the season has at least 4-5 cramp injuries a game
1st. do not care one bit about running out of time outs. use your timeouts wisely, always true.
I get that cramps aren't a safety or health concern where the guy can get some water, stretch, and be ready to go again quickly, but on the other hand, how often do we see the same guy cramp and the game stops again 2-3 plays later. That's a particular injury situation where I would definitely want to see the guy sit out a series, let him get some fluids and stretch while the game is flowing.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:04 pm to 19
If only they'd come up with an anti paying player rule
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:03 pm to BearBait09
quote:. How can you use your timeouts wisely if the are already being used on injuries.
1st. do not care one bit about running out of time outs. use your timeouts wisely, always true.
quote:hoping this was a typo..
I get that cramps aren't a safety or health concern
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how often do we see the same guy cramp and the game stops again 2-3 plays later. That's a particular injury situation where I would definitely want to see the guy sit out a series, let him get some fluids and stretch while the game is flowing.
Not sure what this comment has to do with the topic...
Again people are bitching like this is a big deal. No one in this day and age is going to hinder a football player from taking a break from play. Which is what this thread is bitching about. It’s not like play clock is being drained here.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:52 pm to NYCAuburn
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No one in this day and age is going to hinder a football player from taking a break from play. Which is what this thread is bitching about. It’s not like play clock is being drained here.
you sure list alot of words for someone who can't apparently fricking read.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 1:40 pm to Philippines4LSU
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So lets say QB gets hit pretty hard and gets the wind knocked out of him. normally Has to sit out a play, now an entire series. No issues with that?
Easy fix: Make an exception for players hit while or after possessing the ball.
I think we can all agree that a ball carrier who goes down because of a hard hit is completely different than a defender who either wasn’t knocked down or got back up and then flopped.
That's a good idea.
It's not a hard thing to fix regarding deciphering who is legitimately injured and who is not, because everybody watching the game almost always knows immediately when a player is faking it (and they're almost always correct in their assumption).
A player/team should be penalized for chickenshit tactics like this. It will continue to grow as a problem because it's effective, and after a few years of enforcing the rule, it'd be a rare occurrence anyway; because what's the point of trying it?
They could have off-field officials (e.g., replay booth crew, etc.) monitor it when the situation arises instead of the on- field officiating crew, and there's no doubt the opposing team will have methods to track the suspended player.
In terms of influencing the outcome of game, is it as big of a problem as, say, the failed definition of the targeting rules? No, not yet, but it is a growing cancer, and IMO they should surgically removed it before it has had a chance to fully metastasize.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 1:45 pm to 19
Since player safety is so important that we have the targeting rule overly enforced, then I think if play stops due to a player lying down with injury, that player is taken off for the rest of the series. The player must be noted and with the third "injury/flop" is out of the game since that player is too injured to continue.
If a player has this happen in 3 games, that player is out for the rest of the season.
The flopping is fricking bullshite and must stop.
If a player has this happen in 3 games, that player is out for the rest of the season.
The flopping is fricking bullshite and must stop.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 1:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I think that the only remedy they can realistically enforce is some sort of minimum number of plays missed for a player coming off the field.
And even that will be met with some serious blowback.
“As part of our continued emphasis on player safety, the NCAA has implemented a rule that will help ensure injured student-athletes receive appropriate medical evaluation after in-game injuries. This rule will allow ample time for medical staff to determine the extent of an injury without pressure to immediately allow the injured player back into the game.”
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