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re: Saban's comments on the defense post-South Carolina
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:12 am to bamameister
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:12 am to bamameister
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Where are the exotics blitzes we terrorized teams with a few years ago?
Which of those teams a few years ago put 4-5 true freshman on the field with the first unit?
As said ad nauseum, they are in our back pocket because the risk of a bust outweighs the reward right now. We have to build some confidence in our inexperienced youth first. You've got to learn to walk before you can run.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 10:14 am
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:24 am to DLev45
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Which of those teams a few years ago put 4-5 true freshman on the field with the first unit?
As said ad nauseum, they are in our back pocket because the risk of a bust outweighs the reward right now. We have to build some confidence in our inexperienced youth first. You've got to learn to walk before you can run.
As opposed to what? Watching a true freshman QB walk a Bama team into the red zone for 4 quarters. He might as well have been sitting in a Lincoln in that pocket, cause he sure looked comfortable. How do you make a true freshman QB with 5* talent think he's not the second coming of Joe Montana against mighty Bama?
Don't ask our DC, he doesn't have a clue.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:27 am to bamameister
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As opposed to what? Watching a true freshman QB walk a Bama team into the red zone for 4 quarters
To the tune of 16 points.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 10:28 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:30 am to DLev45
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To the tune of 16 points.
You must have left before the 4th quarter was over. And heads up again, SC ain't the best spread team on our agenda. Not by a long shot.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:33 am to bamameister
You must have missed when we pulled our starters because we were beating the other team so bad, which is the goal in football games.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:38 am to DLev45
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You must have missed when we pulled our starters because we were beating the other team so bad, which is the goal in football games.
Which has nothing to do with our defensive philosophy going forward. Other than our second unit was getting walked into the red zone as well.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:34 pm to bamameister
I agree that Pruitt is Saban's best DC, IMO, by far. I loved his aggressive style but he had fabulous and experienced talent. He also gave up 43, 30, 35 in '16 and 20+ 4 times and 19 in '17. It's a different world now and Bama's D talent and experience is not what it was through '17. As I said earlier, Golding was very aggressive, with almost a DC "mad bomber" rep in his last stop at UTSA. In his 2 years he improved them by 190 ypg to 7th in the FBS and 8th in scoring D in Conf USA. You can rest assured CNS has his hand on the throttle - IMO, wisely so.
Bama held USC to 16 pts with one TD being a long incredible pass and catch that was double covered like a blanket. The pass rush was not great but not nearly as impotent as some suggest. And there were times that Bama simply blew run fits, which looked bad. But USC had trouble running inside with most of their success wide. USC pulled out every conceivable stop but Bama had almost full control the entire game, why make yourself vulnerable to the big play which was the only way USC could have pulled off a fluke? USC played very well and Bama played OK resulting in what was in essence a 30 point win.
Bama held USC to 16 pts with one TD being a long incredible pass and catch that was double covered like a blanket. The pass rush was not great but not nearly as impotent as some suggest. And there were times that Bama simply blew run fits, which looked bad. But USC had trouble running inside with most of their success wide. USC pulled out every conceivable stop but Bama had almost full control the entire game, why make yourself vulnerable to the big play which was the only way USC could have pulled off a fluke? USC played very well and Bama played OK resulting in what was in essence a 30 point win.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:10 pm to tattoo
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Bama held USC to 16 pts with one TD being a long incredible pass and catch that was double covered like a blanket. The pass rush was not great but not nearly as impotent as some suggest. And there were times that Bama simply blew run fits, which looked bad. But USC had trouble running inside with most of their success wide. USC pulled out every conceivable stop but Bama had almost full control the entire game, why make yourself vulnerable to the big play which was the only way USC could have pulled off a fluke? USC played very well and Bama played OK resulting in what was in essence a 30 point win.
This is an excellent summary.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:30 pm to bamameister
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:36 pm to prevatt33
We actually did blitz some. Jordan Battle nearly had a sack on a blitz and Shy Carter batted a ball down on a blitz. It just seems when we blitz we are blitzing secondary and not LBs. Hopefully as the young guys get some experience, we can start blitzing the LBs some too.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:37 pm to bamameister
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Which of those teams a few years ago put 4-5 true freshman on the field with the first unit?
As said ad nauseum, they are in our back pocket because the risk of a bust outweighs the reward right now. We have to build some confidence in our inexperienced youth first. You've got to learn to walk before you can run.
As opposed to what? Watching a true freshman QB walk a Bama team into the red zone for 4 quarters. He might as well have been sitting in a Lincoln in that pocket, cause he sure looked comfortable. How do you make a true freshman QB with 5* talent think he's not the second coming of Joe Montana against mighty Bama?
Don't ask our DC, he doesn't have a clue.
Saban made is clear why he wanted to keep things simple (vanilla) for the front-7 vs SC and it's been re-explained to you quite well by others itt. It's a temporary measure that was taken for that game and more stunts, blitzes, etc. will be implemented going forward. But you still don't seem to get that.
It seems to me that our DC and Saban actually do have a clue. Maybe you can't admit you've overracted.
Try exercising some patience for the next few games while our new young front-7 players are learning on the job. Everything Saban said in 1st press conference of Southern Miss week (BamaOnLine)
Note: Includes full transcript and video.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 5:55 am to TidalSurge1
After giving up 31 first downs to a team that got 15 and 153 total yds vs UNC, I hope we don’t try too many more vanilla approaches 
Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:35 am to Bear88
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After giving up 31 first downs to a team that got 15 and 153 total yds vs UNC, I hope we don’t try too many more vanilla approaches
Who was QBing them in the game vs UNC??
Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:43 am to Funky Tide 8
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Who was QBing them in the game vs UNC??
That would be the same QB, Jake Bentley, who threw the ball for 510 yards against Clemson last season.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:06 am to Funky Tide 8
We will face Qbs better than Hilinski hopefully this year as well. . Not downing any players or coaches but it is concerning . If not, maybe it is too much sunshine pumping or head is in the sand
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:14 am to TidalSurge1
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Saban made is clear why he wanted to keep things simple (vanilla) for the front-7 vs SC and it's been re-explained to you quite well by others itt. It's a temporary measure that was taken for that game and more stunts, blitzes, etc. will be implemented going forward. But you still don't seem to get that.
What I don't get, at this point, is your comfort zone for our defensive sample size. This isn't just a 3 game issue, this is an 18 game issue now. Last season we tried to put it under poor comminication between Mack Wilson and our DCs, whoever they happened to be at the time. That would be the same Mack Wilson starting for the Cleveland Browns last night as a rookie and he didn't look lost or exposed. The middle of our defense was being exposed and teams were walking the ball down our throat, who couldn't even get that stuff done against lesser defenses on their schedule? Arkansas, for example. How did all those spread teams continue to expose the middle of our defense with Dylan Moses, Mack Wilson and we also had the 3rd pick in the draft, Q-man, sitting there at NT making All-American. SC was watching the same tapes, obviously.
Something is amiss. And we've been watching something against these HUNH RPO teams the last 2 seasons now that has reached the point of astonishment to me as a lifelong Bama fan back to coach Bryant.
These failures are looking like scheme issues against teams who have much less talent. If a Muschamp offense can pick up where Clemson left off, with, ironically, another TF QB, we will see plenty more where this came from. Unfortunately.
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It seems to me that our DC and Saban actually do have a clue. Maybe you can't admit you've overracted. Try exercising some patience for the next few games while our new young front-7 players are learning on the job.
The next HUNH RPO team that Golding checks down will be the first. I suggest we all break out the popcorn.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:30 am to bamameister
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That would be the same QB, Jake Bentley, who threw the ball for 510 yards against Clemson last season.
yeah, he had his best game ever against Clemson last year, threw the ball 50 times, in a game that was never really close. Had a pick 6 early in the game.
Its convenient to use outliers, but lets get real, Hilinksi seems to be a significant upgrade over Bentley.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:34 am to bamameister
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This isn't just a 3 game issue, this is an 18 game issue now.
No its not.
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That would be the same Mack Wilson starting for the Cleveland Browns last night as a rookie and he didn't look lost or exposed.
That Jets offense last night was probably worse than South Carolina's.
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If a Muschamp offense can pick up where Clemson left off, with, ironically, another TF QB,
But it didn't...
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:40 am to Funky Tide 8
Dude, save your scientific analysis for those who haven't made in out of grade school. The adults are talking here.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 7:42 am
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:53 am to bamameister
I agree with you guys that we need work, and the young guys need to step up, but I also think that some perspective goes a long way.
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