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re: Florida State's in dire financial straits right now

Posted on 7/2/19 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by ClemsonRules
Virginia
Member since Jan 2017
2608 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 6:55 pm to
Not shedding a tear. Their fans were awful when they visited Clemson a few years back.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6963 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:14 pm to
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The guy took a consistently great FSU program and ran it off the cliff.


To be fair, Bobby Bowden's last few years, FSU had fallen off badly. A search revealed that the last 5 years were 38-27 and 21-19 in conference. Fisher turned it back around pretty quickly. FSU won their division his first year, and were ACC champions 3 his first 5 years and national champions his 4th year.

I talked last year with the wife of an ex player who is evidently still connected with the program and she said Fisher's problems the last couple of years were personal issues. Apparently his ex wife wasn't the only one of the two of them making out like bandits. Was more than that but basically he was ready to get away and start over somewhere else. Personally, I think he'll do well at A&M. Who knows.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6963 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:18 pm to
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ClemsonRules


I don't think the current coach will do it, but it's a pretty good bet that within a few years they'll be odds on favorites most years in the ACC. They are committed to a winning program but made a horrible hire.
Posted by OliverQueen81
In The South
Member since Oct 2015
10532 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:23 pm to
Fsu deserves this. Lol
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2828 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:27 pm to
FSU hosts ULM, Louisville, NC State, Syracuse, Miami and Alabama State.

AD's keep blaming millennials, cell phones and HD TV for falling ticket sales. In all reality just look at the types of home schedules they are providing ticket holders and the answer is easy.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2828 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:37 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 9:16 pm
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21930 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:39 pm to
That might be be worst home schedule of any major power 5 team.
Posted by RatRodDawg
UGA & USC alum/Los Angeles, Calif
Member since Nov 2018
2494 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:06 pm to
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Normally I'd say "ACC Board" but I'll allow it.


What'cha'go na do? Of course, you will.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10204 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:24 pm to
Fsu didn't have too much trouble selling tix in bowdens heydey. Other than that they've always struggled.

Folks here are way too young but us older guys remember when they were a struggling team that hat to give auburn 3 for ones in the 80s. That went 4 times to Nebraska without getting a return trip from the huskers.
They were what byu is now. Central Florida reminds me of them coming on. Fsu didn't demand shite like ucf does but earned it over a 15 year span. Now fsu is the fsu I remember as a kid.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
13944 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:46 pm to
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2019 - #19 Taggart's 1st class

Ranked 3rd in the ACC, would be ranked 10th in the SEC.
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 8:47 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
43142 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:14 am to
Check out how many times they went to Tiger Stadium before they could get a return trip. LSU didn't want any part of Bowden.

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Posted by Morris1
Member since Aug 2017
362 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 6:19 am to
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Florida State's in dire financial straits right now
LOL @ their AD trying to blame it in part on fan's attitudes...

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“It’s a reflection of the last two or three seasons we’ve had, the schedule we have at home, and the attitude of this generation between 20 and 40 about going to live sporting events,” FSU athletics director David Coburn told Warchant in a recent interview.


Fan's between the ages of 20-40 are (on the whole) in a massively different economic position relative to fans of previous eras... Perhaps the continuously inflated ticket prices (or more specifically donation levels required to purchase them) could have something to do with it? Schools - for YEARS - have gone to that well to increase donation levels required and more and more often have made it very challenging for recent grads to gain access to season tickets... therefore they hand-crafted a generation who largely don't feel as attached to attending the games after they graduate. Now they are surprised that the field is barren when they were the ones who failed to water, fertilize, and plant them to begin with...

I don't think there has been a massive shift in "interest" in attending live sporting events, rather a willingness to part with the money required to attend those events as the costs continue to rise.

Frequently see job listings with $15/hr pay rates where desired education is college degree or even masters... College is more expensive than ever and kids are graduating with 6 figure debt... I'm really fortunate to not be in that boat, but holy shite the lack of awareness to try and blame it on people's attitude rather than their fiscally intelligent decision making is eyepopping.




This is THE MOST accurate statement I’ve ever seen posted. You are most definitely right about the lack of awareness. Then again, this the baby boomer generation that caused this. They’ve done it at every other level of society too.
Posted by UFMatt
Trump / Vance country
Member since Oct 2010
12110 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:54 am to
WE LOVE YOU WILLIE!!!!

F L O R I D A S T A T E
Florida State, Florida State, Florida State

SUX!!!
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18223 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 8:17 am to
We can laugh at FSU, but many other college schools will also feel financial pain. ESPN rights fees are going down, regular tickets are harder to sell (premium tickets are in demand), who wants to sit in an upper deck compared to home? Fewer folks are traveling to away and neutral site games (Auburn did not sell out of tickets against UW in Atlanta), parking is harder, tailgating is harder, etc.

The average age of fans attending games is going up. Even Bama has a hard time getting students to the games.

Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12946 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 8:24 am to
If FSU joined the sec they would have bigger crowds. Can ESPN pay for FSU and Clemson the the SEC east, West Virginia and Cincinnati to the ACC and BYU to the big 12. Everybody wins maybe add Colorado state and Houston to the big 12 to get to 12
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
13244 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 8:25 am to
I live an hour from Tally and have zero desire to watch any of those games in person.

An FSU podcast a couple months ago talked the issues for ticket sales even with a good home slate. There aren't a lot of people within a 100 mile radius of Tallahassee compared to other power 5 programs. There are around 500k more people within 100 miles of Lincoln NE, than Tally
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 8:26 am
Posted by Go State Go State
South of the Mason Dixon Line
Member since Aug 2006
370 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:05 am to
Guys lets not kid ourselves. The schools are still making a ton of money from ticket sales and donations. They are just going to have to be conservative with their money.
If they were losing money then you would see less staff and less donor fees to generate interest in the program.

90% of donors are in the bottom donation levels, while the most money comes from the 10% of the top donor levels. As long as the schools have rich donors, they care little about the people trying to save money to buy season tickets outside the 35 yard line.
Posted by Icoachfb
Greenville SC
Member since Jan 2019
1796 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:18 am to
While it doesn’t look good I think this is probably a growing trend for college football, season ticket sales and attendance being down. I’m sure some other schools are having similar problems just not as drastic as FSU.

I do wish FSU would go so broke they would have to sell Renegade just to stay a float. Wouldn’t hurt my feelings one bit.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
43142 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:51 am to
And FSU just announced a plan to privatize last month. I wouldn't normally think this was a bad thing, but FSU has a history of bad behavior and cover up by administrators and other civic leaders in the local area, so

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Posted by Icoachfb
Greenville SC
Member since Jan 2019
1796 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:11 am to
Interesting
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