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re: Danielson: OU should have been left out of playoff, I give them a 20% chance to beat Bama

Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:55 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:55 am to
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Who the first round picks and order of the picks in the 2020 NFL draft are going to be are not "universal opinions". Don't say stupid shite, and you won't win stupid prizes.




Saying our offense is more talented than any offense Alabama has had in the last decade is 100% a universal opinion.

Claiming that Tua, Jeudy and Irv Smith will be early picks in the NFL is a near universal opinion.

Again, do you pay attention to football? Are you just going back into troll mode like last year pre-Rose Bowl?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:56 am to
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You don't say!



And we're averaging a bunch more points, yards and ypp than 2015, 2016 or 2017.............

So it's not a change in scheme.............what else could be different than those years............

This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 11:59 am
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11221 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:57 am to
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I give them a 20% chance to beat Bama


Way too high
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43396 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:57 am to
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You've always had this.


Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:58 am to
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Saying our offense is more talented than any offense Alabama has had in the last decade is 100% a universal opinion.


I'm sure it's "universal opinion" in SEC country. Not anywhere else.

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Claiming that Tua, Jeudy and Irv Smith will be early picks in the NFL is a near universal opinion.


So now we've gone from exactly what picks they will go in the top 5 of the draft to "early picks". I see you've re-thought your silly post and decided to be more rational.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:00 pm to
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I'm sure it's "universal opinion" in SEC country. Not anywhere else.



If by SEC Country you mean college football media at large from coast to coast, then yes.

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So now we've gone from exactly what picks they will go in the top 5 of the draft to "early picks". I see you've re-thought your silly post and decided to be more rational.



I gave you an early mock draft as an example to compare with our 2013 receivers who weren't drafted at all. Clearly none of that is set in stone, but Jeudy and Tua are on most mock draft boards as 1st round picks ATM. Luckily they won't be in the NFL for another season.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:01 pm to
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And we're averaging a bunch more points, yards and ypp than 2015, 2016 or 2017............. So it's not a change in scheme.............


Because you're a 100% spread offense with a spread QB finally. It's exactly the change in scheme. The same thing happens to every team that converts to a spread offense.

What's next? Are you going to shock me by telling me Tua is on pace to shatter every QB record in existence at Alabama too?
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16193 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:01 pm to
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OU terrifies Bama


Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:02 pm to
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I gave you an early mock draft


I didn't see any link to a "mock draft" in your post. You made stupid claims and claimed they were "universal opinions".
If there is one thing mock drafts are not, it's "universal opinion".
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26993 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:03 pm to
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We're much more talented and deep at WR, TE and QB than we have ever been under Nick Saban.


No you're not. McCarron's offense running this scheme would've produced similar results.


I've sort of just started reading this thread right here, so I haven't read all your other posts, but this one is pure stupidity. If you're so clueless and uninformed as to say that Jeudy, Ruggs, Smith, and Waddle aren't a more talented and a deeper WR corps than anything McCarron had to work with, you're not capable of having an intelligent discussion on this whole Bama-OU topic.

2013 Bama had one WR drafted in the first round...Cooper...and one in the 4th...Norwood. Robert Foster redshirted.

I'm not going to do your homework for you. You can check the 2013 and 2018 stats here and here. If you'd have done that first, you might not be looking like a fool right now.

Seriously...with what you posted here, why both reading anything else you post?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43396 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:03 pm to
It's funny how you continuously ignore statistics in this thread.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:04 pm to
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Because you're a 100% spread offense with a spread QB finally. It's exactly the change in scheme. The same thing happens to every team that converts to a spread offense.


Oh so it is a talent thing.

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What's next? Are you going to shock me by telling me Tua is on pace to shatter every QB record in existence at Alabama too?



He's on pace to break everyone national efficiency record, too, along with Kyler.

Weird, because I figured he'd just be in there with that big pile of Big XII spread QBs, the walk on QB at Oklahoma State and all the Texas Tech QBs, maybe some random kid from Baylor. You know, because it's just all about the scheme.

Of all the strange arguments the argument that our offensive skill guys aren't any different than 5 years ago is by far the strangest.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:04 pm to
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I didn't see any link to a "mock draft" in your post. You made stupid claims and claimed they were "universal opinions".


Then read a little harder. It clearly said "WALTER FOOTBALL" above it.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:07 pm to
Okay fine. Walter football. Who cares? Mock drafts are not "universal opinions" anymore than they are "facts". Stop saying dumb shite.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:10 pm to
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Okay fine. Walter football. Who cares? Mock drafts are not "universal opinions" anymore than they are "facts". Stop saying dumb shite.



Again, do you read about college foootball? From The Athletic to ESPN to SB Nation to whoever, basically every publication has had multiple articles and discussions about how our offense has been transformed by the talent at QB, WR and TE.

The only person I have seen argue that our talent is basically the same as it was 5 years ago is CharlotteSooner on a message board.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26993 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:10 pm to
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I didn't see any link to a "mock draft" in your post. You made stupid claims and claimed they were "universal opinions".
If there is one thing mock drafts are not, it's "universal opinion".



I don't care about mock drafts. I just gave you statistical evidence. To say that 2013 Bama was just as deep at WR indicates a lack of football knowledge not even worthy of having a conversation with.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37711 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:11 pm to
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Not anywhere else.


If you are excluding NFL GM's, Coaches, and analysts and basically anyone who can evaluate talent for the League, then yes.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:11 pm to
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You can check the 2013 and 2018 stats here and here. If you'd have done that first, you might not be looking like a fool right now.


ME looking like a fool?

You're trying to compare the stats between a pro-style offense from 2013 and a spread offense from 2018 as proof that you're more talented and I'm the fool?

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To say that 2013 Bama was just as deep at WR indicates a lack of football knowledge


There's that "lack of football knowledge" SEC fans like to drop on people while they're saying dumb shite again.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 12:13 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26993 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:13 pm to
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ME looking like a fool?

You're trying to compare the stats between a pro-style offense from 2013 and a spread offense from 2018 as proof that you're more talented and I'm the fool?


I'm sorry, did you say something? I'm not having a conversation with a moron. You've proven that's what you are.

2013 Bama only had 9 fewer pass attempts than 2018 to this point.

Your stupidity is amazing.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 12:15 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:16 pm to
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You're trying to compare the stats between a pro-style offense from 2013 and a spread offense from 2018 as proof that you're more talented and I'm the fool?



2015 - 5.89 YPP (#49), 35.1 PPG (#30)
2016 - 6.47 YPP (#22), 38.8 PPG (#15)
2017 - 6.59 YPP (#13), 37.1 PPG (#15)
2018 - 7.92 YPP (#2), 47.9 PPG (#2)

Those are 4 years of the same offense. Weirdly, 2018 is 10 PPG better and 1.33 YPP better than the 2nd best year. I can't figure out why.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 12:17 pm
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