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re: Danielson: OU should have been left out of playoff, I give them a 20% chance to beat Bama

Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:19 am to
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17767 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:19 am to
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Gary is a fricking hack and needs to be gone


Danielson is the best football guy on TV. He literally calls plays right before you watch the teams run them.
People don't like that he obviously touts Bama as the best team EVERY week. Well, guess what....?
Posted by rolltide1283
Pinson
Member since Feb 2007
3362 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:20 am to
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understand what you're trying to tell me. I'm telling YOU that it's not the case. And no, you don't have 
"4 NFL Wide Receivers!"






We have 3 sophomores (1 of whom is a biletnikoff finalist) and 1 freshman and as a group, they are significantly better than any group we've had before. You will see for yourself on the 29th.

We averaged 38 PPG in 2013 but we average 48 this year. We also scored on D and ST a lot more in 2013.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:21 am to
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I was hopping you'd pop in with some statistical beat downs. I am not disappoint.




The Oklahoma offense is terrifying, but the idea that Oklahoma's defense is bad because they play in the Big XII is LOL stupid.

And you'd think after last year's experience with Georgia they'd figure out the 2010 run first power-I SEC offenses thing does not exist anymore.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 10:22 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:22 am to
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Kyler Murray currently has the best betting odds to win the Heisman



Not sure what your point is with that. Baker Mayfield won it last year.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:25 am to
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I understand what you're trying to tell me. I'm telling YOU that it's not the case. And no, you don't have
"4 NFL Wide Receivers!"




Jeudy, Ruggs, Devontae Smith and Waddle? Pretty sure all 4 will play in the NFL.

There are times in which you are level headed and make excellent points, but you are dead wrong on this one.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11559 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:27 am to
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Danielson is the best football guy on TV. He literally calls plays right before you watch the teams run them.


So does half of America and every commentator on TV...
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:31 am to
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This exaggerates OU's defensive stats. Were OU to play more traditional offenses, their defensive stats wouldn't look so bad.



Maybe you should go back and look at the stats from last years Rose Bowl, then. You gave up 54 points and your defense lined up badly, and tackled worse all game long. And our offense was not the strength of the team.

Your offense is good. VERY good. but face it...your defense is horrible. Poor tackling, poor angles, lining up wrong, can't adjust to offensive shifts....we have Georgia high schools that would score major points on Oklahoma's defense. I'm not trying to troll you or belittle your team. It's just a fact.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:32 am to
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Maybe you should go back and look at the stats from last years Rose Bowl, then. You gave up 54 points and your defense lined up badly, and tackled worse all game long. And our offense was not the strength of the team.

Your offense is good. VERY good. but face it...your defense is horrible. Poor tackling, poor angles, lining up wrong, can't adjust to offensive shifts....we have Georgia high schools that would score major points on Oklahoma's defense. I'm not trying to troll you or belittle your team. It's just a fact.



If only Oklahoma got to play more Kansas States then they would be good at defense. That's basically the argument here.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 10:32 am
Posted by Sooner1984
Boone's Farm, Texas
Member since Jan 2017
454 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:33 am to
When you were a diaper baby, OU beat Alabama convincingly. This was 4-5 years ago. The same hullabaloo ya'll were talkin back then has come full circle again.

My prediction: Bama will be on the ropes in this game. Final score will be around 55-45.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:35 am to
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quote:
Gary is a fricking hack and needs to be gone


Danielson is the best football guy on TV. He literally calls plays right before you watch the teams run them.
People don't like that he obviously touts Bama as the best team EVERY week. Well, guess what....?

You got that right!
He IS the best, most knowledgeable color commentator in college football.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6647 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:35 am to
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OU got several stops and turnovers against will Grier and WVU, and Texas tech, who both have comparible offenses to Alabama. The best offense on the field WILL be Oklahoma, y’all better worry about stopping them a couple times.


Neither are a diverse or as talented as Alabama's offense. It is not just one or two players that are good on Alabama, Alabama has at least 4 great RB and 4 great WR, along with better QBs.

OU may stay in the game unitl the half, but Alabama then outdistances them.

Alabama by 21 (at least)


edit to add- it is hard to judge how good the OU offense really is when they play such lousy defenses.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 10:37 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:44 am to
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When you were a diaper baby, OU beat Alabama convincingly. This was 4-5 years ago. The same hullabaloo ya'll were talkin back then has come full circle again.


I had 2 diaper babies of my own in 2013. If you want to ignore everything about 2018 and pretend 2013 is going to happen again, more power to you.

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My prediction: Bama will be on the ropes in this game. Final score will be around 55-45.



I also think the score will be around 55-45 (I think we'll win, I assume you think the flipside). Nobody here is arguing (well, almost nobody) that Oklahoma's offense won't score a bunch. We're arguing that these "but really" defenses of Oklahoma's defense are just stupid. You guys are awful on defense and insane on offense. It's ok to admit that.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 10:46 am
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6647 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:47 am to
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That two time national champion team didn't have NFL talent all over it's offense is that what you're saying


The difference in that game was Alabama turned the ball over 5 times. Now if the Oklahoma D can get Alabama to turn the ball over 5 times, then OU has a chance.




Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6647 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:49 am to
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OU got stops against WVU and tech, and Texas. I’m pretty confident they can get stops against a run of the mill Big 12 offense that is completely new to your feeble sec minds. The last time this got game was played we have TREVOR KNIGHT at QB and Alabama had a better defense than they do this year. They got torched and their NFL Oline was pushed around all night nearly getting AJs head taken off several times.


Torched? No, Alabama turned the ball over 5 times... that was the difference...and Alabama was still in the game at the end....



Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:13 am to
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We're arguing that these "but really" defenses of Oklahoma's defense are just stupid. You guys are awful on defense and insane on offense. It's ok to admit that.



Ya I don't get it. I mean I could understand if any of us were saying OU's offense was trash. But damn near everyone agrees OU has one hell of an offense.

To sit there and argue instead OU's defense is good as well is just odd when every single statistic says otherwise.

Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10993 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:14 am to
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You gave up an average of 50 PPG against the 3 Top 25 offenses you played this year, 52 PPG vs the 2 Top 10 offenses you played.

But please, continue.


I will. We won all of those games.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:14 am to
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Ya I don't get it. I mean I could understand if any of us were saying OU's offense was trash. But damn near everyone agrees OU has one hell of an offense.

To sit there and argue instead OU's defense is good as well is just odd when every single statistic says otherwise.



Exactly - hell arguing OU is good on defense is almost the same as arguing OU is bad on offense.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:15 am to
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We won all of those games.


So just ignore the whole point of the post refuting your post. Cool, we're back to doing that again.

Good luck in the ballgame Charlotte. Have a fun time rooting around the board for the next few weeks.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:17 am to
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If only Oklahoma got to play more Kansas States then they would be good at defense. That's basically the argument here.

I'll never understand the insistence that their defense is really good, and only looks bad because they play such good offenses.

They do play good offenses, but all they have to look at is the Rose Bowl to see how bad their defense was. I mean, our offense was good last year, but not BIG12 good and we put 54 up on them. That alone should close the argument.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10993 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:17 am to
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Neither are a diverse or as talented as Alabama's offense. It is not just one or two players that are good on Alabama, Alabama has at least 4 great RB and 4 great WR, along with better QBs.


You've always had this. You run a spread offense with 4 WR sets now and distribute the ball to those WRs instead of the old 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense you used to run. It's the same talent you've had for years, used differently.

Goddamn you people are spread offense newbs.
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