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re: NCAA IS re-opening LSU's Kristian Fulton 2-year ban case
Posted on 7/28/18 at 7:52 am to lsufball19
Posted on 7/28/18 at 7:52 am to lsufball19
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actually, people are saying he should be suspended 1 year, not 2.
Yep. Even thought any other player for any other team would be suspended for two according to the rules....hence my comment.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 8:00 am to memphisplaya
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Bama is actually the last team that should be throwing shade on this. There was a second player that did this and he fled to JUCO to avoid punishment. Perhaps you can piece it together.
Then maybe that is what Fulton should do? Crap. You are insinuating that Alabama had a player that left because he faced a 2 year penalty, but your guy should only face a 1 year. Do y'all even read what you type?
It's pretty obvious you guys are completely missing the irony of your posts, and will not even attempt to approach this from a reasonable standpoint. All you can do is say it is fair for Alabama, but LSU players should be given a pass.
It's time to let this thread die.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:38 am to DawgsLife
He never failed the test. He tampered with a test. Both have a penalty of a one-year suspension.
He was guilty of only one of those violations, so it should be a year.
I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept to grasp. Did you just not read anything about it?
He was guilty of only one of those violations, so it should be a year.
I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept to grasp. Did you just not read anything about it?
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:46 am to Jebadeb
He tampered with the test because he knew he would fail it. Do you actually think he would tamper with the test if he thought he would pass the test.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 10:05 am to BamaCajunMan
He tampered with the test because he thought he would fail it.
He though that it tested for cannabis when it did not. Last time I checked, thinking you will fail a test is not the same as failing.
He though that it tested for cannabis when it did not. Last time I checked, thinking you will fail a test is not the same as failing.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 10:08 am to Jebadeb
What do you not understand. He tampered with the test because he knew he would fail it regardless of whatever he thought it tested for. It is pretty simple to understand. He was trying to CHEAT the system and got caught.
This post was edited on 7/28/18 at 10:09 am
Posted on 7/28/18 at 11:09 am to TouchdownTony
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Also, whenever Bama has a player caught with weed you guys go through the roof if he's not suspended. Now it's ok because it was "just a little weed"?? BTW, you didn't suspend him, the NCAA did.
For the thousand time nobody is saying it's "ok" he smiled weed. He already served a year Suspension for the violation.
This post was edited on 7/28/18 at 11:24 am
Posted on 7/28/18 at 11:12 am to BamaCajunMan
You can't fail a test for something it doesn't test for.
He thought he would fail for cannabis. The test did not test for cannabis. It tested for PEDs which were not in his system for any test. Therefore, he never failed a test and should not be given the penalty for such.
He thought he would fail for cannabis. The test did not test for cannabis. It tested for PEDs which were not in his system for any test. Therefore, he never failed a test and should not be given the penalty for such.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 11:18 am to DawgsLife
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actually, people are saying he should be suspended 1 year, not 2.
Yep. Even thought any other player for any other team would be suspended for two according to the rules....hence my comment.
Good thing the player has legal avenues he can pursue to
Possibly get the suspension shortened, just like any other teams
Players could or would do in a similar situation. If the NCAA
Agrees then it will be shortened and if not he will sit out two years
as directed. Are you trying to say UGA players don't try to
appeal suspensions or get penalties shortened? I seem to remember several examples in just the Last 5 years. And more power to them for pursuing the legal options
they were afforded by the NCAA.
This post was edited on 7/28/18 at 11:27 am
Posted on 7/28/18 at 11:33 am to Jebadeb
How do you know what he thought the test was far? If he is too clueless to know what he is being tested for well...I will leave it at that.
I also think LSU should suspend him for what he did or tired to do.
I also think LSU should suspend him for what he did or tired to do.
This post was edited on 7/28/18 at 11:34 am
Posted on 7/28/18 at 1:56 pm to Barstools
As a Tigers fan, I want to get him back eligible, and won't try to deny or make excuses about that. I want my team to win.
But
But
quote:This is objectively the right answer. Honestly, he probably should be ruled permanently ineligible for that.
The penalty for one failed test for PEDs is one year. If tampering with the test isn't more severe than the failed test itself, players would have no reason not to tamper with the test. The penalty is to deter players from trying to cheat the system.
The fact that he subsequently passed the test means nothing. He though he was going to fail and tried to cover that up. He's a dumb arse.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 2:04 pm to Jebadeb
quote:He shouldn't be suspended for failing the test.
He thought he would fail for cannabis. The test did not test for cannabis. It tested for PEDs which were not in his system for any test. Therefore, he never failed a test and should not be given the penalty for such
He should be suspended, and severely, for tampering with the test.
Smoking weed is pretty common among some cultural groups, and there's a lot of popular support to legalize it for recreational usage.
Intentionally falsifying official documents and/or tampering with evidence... that's a different issue.
And yes, it's also acceptable in certain cultural groups. But while there's overlap, it's not the same group as above.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:59 pm to thunderbird1100
NCAA denied the appeal.
LINK
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By ROSS DELLENGER August 09, 2018
BATON ROUGE, La. — The NCAA has denied an appeal to overturn a two-year suspension of LSU football player Kristian Fulton, who got caught and admitted to cheating on a drug test. "We will pursue a waiver to get him on the field. That starts tomorrow. That is still a possibility. Candidly, this is extremely disappointing. They made the wrong decision," Fulton' attorney Don Jackson said.
LINK
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:06 pm to BrerTiger
Idk if I feel bad for him or if he’s getting what he deserves. I guess you play dumb games you win dumb prizes, but that’s a stiff penalty.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:07 pm to Jebadeb
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You can't fail a test for something it doesn't test for.
He thought he would fail for cannabis. The test did not test for cannabis. It tested for PEDs which were not in his system for any test. Therefore, he never failed a test and should not be given the penalty for such.
He isn't smart enough to know what they test for yet he is supposed to improve your defense?
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:08 pm to Farmer1906
I like the line of logic that penalties for tampering with the tests should be much stiffer than the penalty for failing the test. Just fail the test and take your punishment.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:09 pm to TideSaint
Did Cam Robsinson help Alabama’s OL?
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:09 pm to TideSaint
Alabama wins again. You pieces or shite probably had something to do with this
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:10 pm to lsu711
who will cry for the little corn dog?
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:10 pm to CP3LSU25
You didn't hear it from me.
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