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Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:23 pm to Barstools
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Remind me again how Will Grier got busted tampering with the test. Oh, that's right. He didn't.
how do you know he didn't try to do anything to mask what he took? That's right, you don't. There is more than one way to try to pass a test, but you already knew that, right?
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So then what is your argument for why two years is too long?
Because I do not believe anyone should be suspended for 2 years for a first time offense of really anything absent being in prison or not being eligible. Repeat offender for banned substances, sure. I think 2 years is excessive for what he did. So does the NFL, MLB, and NBA. Sorry if you don't agree.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:24 pm to Barstools
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But I'm the moron...
Yes, you've made that very clear to this point
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:24 pm to Barstools
I have to admit, I find it amusing.
1. He knew the rules.
2. He broke the rules.
3. LSU fans go ape since he is being punished according to the rules.
1. He knew the rules.
2. He broke the rules.
3. LSU fans go ape since he is being punished according to the rules.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:26 pm to Barstools
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Jesus Butt fricking Christ. Why is that so hard to grasp?
"jesus butt fricking christ" you still don't know what the argument is...clearly, because every single one of your posts isn't even in the same ballpark. My god.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:26 pm to Rohan Gravy
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"I always liked playing Georgia early in the season, because they had so many players suspended”.....Steve Spurrier
What does that have to do with anything? I mean it's a funny quote but what does that non sequitur have to do with this discussion.
What I meant to say was, excellent point. The kid didn't cheat and deserves to be reinstated.
Damn, you guys are really living up to the stereotype.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:26 pm to Barstools
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I really don't care whether he is suspended or not. What I really take exception with is how terrible at reasoning and thinking skills the LSU fans are displaying in this thread. I mean I know LSU doesn't rank very high but I thought you would needed at least basic reasoning skills to graduate.
Basic reasoning would be somewhat critically thinking taking half a college kid's career away for a first time non-violent offense on a simple test they actually ended up passing is pretty dumb, but hey, we've all seen you're inability to "reason" this entire thread.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:27 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Im not sure
These are 18 year olds we're talking about, it's not an excuse just a fact they aren't going to remember every single consequence for every single rule. Do you really, honestly, truly believe Fulton knew about this 2 year ban before that test, and not just heard it once or saw it in passing, but legitimately thought beforehand "if I get caught, i lose 2 years".
But this is such a weak argument in his defense
My whole point in this, is the argument for Fulton not being suspended 2 years is :
it isnt fair eventhough the rule was clearly written
he was ignorant of the rule
Those are really weak arguments and I dont blame the ncaa for not giving in, nor other fans for saying we look ridiculous
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:27 pm to texag7
quote:Bama yes. Auburn yes. Florida yes. A&M no. We wouldn't care enough.
they only care because it is a LSU player. If it was a Bama or A&M player they would support the 2 year ban
I do think it's funny that infractions with the NCAA almost always result in more severe consequences for players than felonies do.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:27 pm to DawgsLife
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1. He knew the rules.
2. He broke the rules.
3. LSU fans go ape since he is being punished according to the rules.
4. 2 UGA fans dumb enough to not realize people are saying the punishment doesn't fit the crime
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:27 pm to Sun God
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Uh yeah. That was why I posted the previous comment
Okay. Y'all win. Players should all be punished when they break the rules unless they play for lSU. Then they should get a stern pat on the bottom and told not to do it again, and to really show them, maybe a team vote.
This thread has gotten a little too dramatic for me. Y'all go ahead and cry among yourselves about how unfair it is for a LSU player to be punished.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:28 pm to DawgsLife
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Is it the rule? yes. Then how would it be fare if he was not suspended for two years?
sigh, you still haven't grasped what people are actually arguing.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:28 pm to thunderbird1100
Bar stools is more interested in straw man arguments and general misinformation
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:28 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Hey dont group me in there
1. He knew the rules.
2. He broke the rules.
3. LSU fans go ape since he is being punished according to the rules.
Go on tiger rant. A decent amount of lsu fans are of my opinion
I do think the rule could be looked at for the future as half of ones playing time for a first time offense seems harsh, but I am not of the opinion of changing the ruling for this case
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:28 pm to lsufball19
What's the fricking argument then? You have failed to even provide a legitimate reason. You claim two years is two long, he didn't know the consequences, he was only cheating because he used drugs not PEDs and that he passed a later test so that exonerates him.
How have I failed to address any of those points? I mean it's like you guys cannot even read.
How have I failed to address any of those points? I mean it's like you guys cannot even read.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:31 pm to DawgsLife
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Yep and we didn't come on the board whining about how unfair it was.
I don’t think I whined....
I do think it’s a bad rule to suspend a player for two years .....
But I really haven’t thought enough about it.
Maybe it’s a good thing to make the players take some responsibility.
Like when schools pay players and get busted, the school is penalized not the players or the Coach.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:31 pm to lsupride87
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Im not sure
But this is such a weak argument in his defense
My whole point in this, is the argument for Fulton not being suspended 2 years is :
it isnt fair eventhough the rule was clearly written
he was ignorant of the rule
Those are really weak arguments and I dont blame the ncaa for not giving in, nor other fans for saying we look ridiculous
If he gets off, it's because of the new evidence, everyone knows this. Their argument isn't that he was a clueless 18 year old and made a dumb mistake so let him off. They know thats not how the NCAA operates.
As a side to that, these other things we've stated are certainly many solid arguments that the punishment of 2 years is still extremely excessive. It shouldn't surprise anyone if the NCAA eventually changes their stance on that kind of suspension, especially when it's very much left up to an accusation without potential solid proof (Which I think is where the Fulton's will go with his case).
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:33 pm to Barstools
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I know LSU doesn't rank very high but I thought you would needed at least basic reasoning skills to graduate.
The lsu fans you are interacting with in this thread never stepped foot in a LSU classroom
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:34 pm to texag7
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The lsu fans you are interacting with in this thread never stepped foot in a LSU classroom
Try again. And you're definitely one to speak on this...
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:37 pm to texag7
Daniel did you apply to BRCC?
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