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Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:47 pm
Can you guys lay out the differences between Jalen Hurts and Nick Marshall? Is there a significant difference? Are they two totally different football players? (Rhetorical)

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Is Nick Marshall Hurts' ceiling? Is Marshall a fair comparison?
Posted by plaric
Pike Road, Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:48 pm to
NM could hit deep passes?

They are different players though. NM was lightning quick and had a decently accurate hand cannon. Seemed to never get rattled as well no matter what.
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Posted by TT9
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:48 pm to
Yes, Marshall threw a fantastic deep ball, Hurts isn't there yet.
Posted by threedog79
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:48 pm to
NM was faster. Hurts will be able to throw a better ball eventually. NM could run the read option better than anybody I have ever seen. Hurts will be more of a complete QB with a little more marinating.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:49 pm to
No, Marshall was quicker, Hurts is bigger. I believe Marshall was a bit faster. Both have accuracy issues.
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:50 pm to
Nick Marshall was damn good. I think Hurts has a higher ceiling though. Once he gets the timing down on the long ball, he will be a more complete qb.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:55 pm to
I would say Marshall was faster and had a stronger arm.

Hurts is probably more accurate.
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Can you guys lay out the differences between Jalen Hurts and Nick Marshall? Is there a significant difference? Are they two totally different football players? (Rhetorical)

TIA

Is Nick Marshall Hurts' ceiling? Is Marshall a fair comparison?


Need to hear an interview with Hurts before I weigh in.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:56 pm to
Some already have hit on the key differences.

One thing Hurts seems to possess that Nick did is how calm and unaffected he is by his success or mistakes.

Nick was cool as ice and Hurts seems to possess the same.

Also, Hurts is just a freshman so his ceiling seems to be somewhat higher.
Posted by WarBuzzard
Bammer
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:58 pm to
Nicky was a fricking magician at hiding the ball.
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
2817 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:01 pm to
Marshall is a favorable comparison if Jalen develops. He might end up a better passer but I don't think he'll ever excel Nick as a runner.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:19 pm to
Hurts ceilings is waaaay higher... nick was better at the read option game, but in terms of arm talent and touch, JH should be able to surpass NM soon (if he hasn't already).
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:29 pm to
I don't know, I haven't heard Hurts speak yet.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21706 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:40 pm to
Marshall was faster and a better passer.
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:49 pm to
Nick Marshall has no eligibility left?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
25066 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:54 pm to
I'm really glad Hurts doesn't play for Gus. I think after 3-4 years, he might end up a better version of Nick Marshall and absolutely kill it in Malzahn's offense.

I think Kiffin is still trying to figure out how to use/coach Hurts. I think it is impressive how Kiffin has adapted the offense to fit Hurts. It's amazing how much zone read Alabama is running all of the sudden. Hat's off to all of the offensive players for adapting really. However, I think the offense can be a bit of a mash up of different things and Hurts may be struggling to be a jack of all trades at times in Kiffin's current system.

It's going to be interesting to see how Hurts develops and how the offense develops the next 3 years. I think I've seen flashes that Hurts might have a higher ceiling to be a more complete QB than Marshall got to.

As far as differences right now. Marshall was as good as I've seen running the read option. His deceptiveness, decision-making and lighting quick first step absolutely froze defenses and created wide open running and throwing lanes. Hurts doesn't have that yet and may never have that particularly since I think Alabama will develop him a little more as not just a zone read guy.
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:59 pm to
Hurts runs east and west WAY too much. I don't know if he is trying to give a receiver enough time to open up or if he thinks he will be able to outrun the defense. East/West ain't workin'
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 3:59 pm to


Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Jalen Hurts and Nick Marshall


We saw Nick Marshall in the SEC as a JR & SR after he'd gotten a year of seasoning playing QB at the Juco level. We are seeing Jalen Hurts thrown to the fire in the SEC as a FR. It'll be interesting to see how Jalen looks as a JR in the SEC. I think his ceiling is higher than Marshall's. Like others have said, Marshall quicker/faster and Hurts higher QB ceiling.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83807 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Is there a significant difference?
Yeah, the rest of their teammates

Oh and Jalen is probably a better running QB.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 4:34 pm
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