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NCAA will not allow Lattimore to be on staff ....

Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:53 pm
They are always willing to interfere with the good things LINK
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
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They are always willing to interfere with the good thing


Yet they ignore massive academic fraud in Chapel Hill.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
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The NCAA has stated that Lattimore cannot join Will Muschamp’s staff at USC due to Lattimore’s status as a former player


obviously him being a former player is not a reason he can't coach there. See: kirby

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his presence through football camps and foundation. The NCAA considers it an unfair recruiting advantage.


I don't understand this?



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Lattimore can still speak to the team and be on the program’s periphery, but he can’t be named to a staff position. There would be nothing to stop Muschamp from hiring Lattimore as a coach,


wait wut?
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65527 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
why can't USC just give him a non-staff position within the athletic department? For instance, Justin Vincent, a former player and former NFL vet for Pittsburgh, is the assistant director of player personnel
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:57 pm to
Let me see if I understand this right.

Muschamp wants him on staff but not as a coach. Right? And if you aren't a coach, then you can't recruit. So what unfair advantage does the NCAA think SCar is getting?


Also barring him from being on staff because he's a former player is down right idiotic.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15471 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:58 pm to
So Ole Miss can go and hire the brother of a recruit but a former player cant be on staff? That is bullshite
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:59 pm to
Are GAs considered staff? How was it ok for guys like Josh Heupel and Major Applewhite to almost immediately become GAs after their careers ended? I know that was 12-13 years ago but this makes no sense to me.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:01 pm to
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The NCAA has stated that Lattimore cannot join Will Muschamp’s staff at USC due to Lattimore’s status as a former player and his presence through football camps and foundation. The NCAA considers it an unfair recruiting advantage.

This makes no damn sense.

So, a former player cannot coach at his school?

What in the actual frick?

I don't get it. How did Steve Spurrier do it all those years at Florida?
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:06 pm to
This is confusing to me.

He can come and speak to players and at event (with recruits present,) but he can't get paid for it.... When did the communists win?

We can hire him with some title like "Life Coach" but we can't hire him with an administrative title like "Director of Life Coaching."


The NCAA took 3 months to figure this out, but now going on over 5 years to figure out that UNC cheated. #ncaaproblems.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:14 pm to
dafork? Seems like they could hire him as a "support staff" and he can do w/e the hell they want him to, right? I mean, aren't there like assistant strategic coke bottle placement coordinator support staff members for Saban? Who gives a shite if they previously played for the university. :|

ETA: Hmm. Seems additional comments have tied the issue back to camps that he runs outside, but I have a hard time buying that one. I mean in that scenario, couldn't all of Mark Richt's old mission trips have been considered potential recruiting violations if we ever grabbed a player from Haiti? Ultimately, is there any doubt that Lattimore would be steering players to USC if he were to steer at all? I genuinely don't even think he would unless the kid wanted to go there to begin with anyways. Dumb shite is dumb.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
58180 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:39 pm to
So basically they are saying its a recruiting advantage to have a person on staff that can help players prepare for life after football? If he ends his camps it would be ok though?

Am I reading this correctly?

This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:41 pm to
I am sure once he graduates he can do whatever he wants, including being on the coaching staff.

Justin Vincent works at LSU.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8203 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:42 pm to
Lame but I get it. Its the rule to keep you from hiring 100 "staff" members to do recruiting and get around the coach limit. Somebody hire this guy as a coach though.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19749 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:51 pm to
Um, what? Football staffs are full of former players
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51818 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:10 pm to
Easily winnable lawsuit.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10583 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:13 pm to
Muschamp should create a coaching position termed "life coach" and be done with it.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15745 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:29 pm to
No doubt this is the punishment they decided to dish out related to their findings up in Chapel Hill
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 4:36 pm to
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They are always willing to interfere with the good things LINK



I don't agree with the decision, but some good things can be too easily manipulated.
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
20346 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 4:43 pm to
Dunno if anyone has said it yet but it's basically the calipari rule, although I dunno if it applies with here.

He would hire a bunch of people connected to recruits and give them 80k jobs in the bball dept at Memphis.
Posted by Blawdawg
Member since Sep 2012
415 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 4:51 pm to
The prohibition makes sense. Do you want Alabama hiring the head of a series of camps as "special recruiting coordinator?" He'd have a direct association w the school, be paid by the school, and have the same limitations of other coaches except he'd have unlimited evaluation and contact with players at the camps. That's a nice advantage for that school and a loophole every team would drive a truck through.

A series of Ozzie Newsome "Built By Bama" camps has a nice ring to it. Not gonna happen
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