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What's your take on the game?
Posted on 9/5/15 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 9/5/15 at 8:06 pm
My personal thoughts are:
More of the same with Mauk. Around 50% completion percentage. His balls downfield seem more promising than his shorter passes. He never really seems impressive and never blows anyone out but he wins.
Lock is the real deal. No, we're not jumping to him as a starter, but I do think we're gonna have a REAL BIG controversy next year. I would like to see him get more than 1 series a game at this point.
RB's...Hansbrough has to be the man. Witter is useless. Hunt is a role player. Steward who knows. Basically, running game sucks after Hansbrough. Here's how much it sucks. Witter was our leading rusher with 33 yards. Our second leading rusher....Hansbrough with 23 who didn't play the whole game.
WR's showed some promise but still way too many drops. Brown had a TD. Moore had a TD. And both should have had 2. Culkin still isn't consistent catching it. But overall, I thought they showed a lot of promise with a lot of guys getting touches and targets.
OLine was atrocious. I don't know the answer. Hell, I'll go back to moving McGovern off of guard. Abeln wasn't good. I refuse to believe that Chappell or whoever isn't better.
Beckner was extremely solid. I watched parts of the game over and he was involved in a lot more plays than I originally realized.
Harris has to learn to defend the run. As much as I love the kid and the story, he has to become a complete player.
Howard...wouldn't have known he was a true freshman. He's gonna be another good one to watch for years.
Penton...love him at corner. PR...not so much.
Overall, lots of young guys got their feet wet and that will pay off in the long run. My biggest worry are the veterans...on the OLine.
More of the same with Mauk. Around 50% completion percentage. His balls downfield seem more promising than his shorter passes. He never really seems impressive and never blows anyone out but he wins.
Lock is the real deal. No, we're not jumping to him as a starter, but I do think we're gonna have a REAL BIG controversy next year. I would like to see him get more than 1 series a game at this point.
RB's...Hansbrough has to be the man. Witter is useless. Hunt is a role player. Steward who knows. Basically, running game sucks after Hansbrough. Here's how much it sucks. Witter was our leading rusher with 33 yards. Our second leading rusher....Hansbrough with 23 who didn't play the whole game.
WR's showed some promise but still way too many drops. Brown had a TD. Moore had a TD. And both should have had 2. Culkin still isn't consistent catching it. But overall, I thought they showed a lot of promise with a lot of guys getting touches and targets.
OLine was atrocious. I don't know the answer. Hell, I'll go back to moving McGovern off of guard. Abeln wasn't good. I refuse to believe that Chappell or whoever isn't better.
Beckner was extremely solid. I watched parts of the game over and he was involved in a lot more plays than I originally realized.
Harris has to learn to defend the run. As much as I love the kid and the story, he has to become a complete player.
Howard...wouldn't have known he was a true freshman. He's gonna be another good one to watch for years.
Penton...love him at corner. PR...not so much.
Overall, lots of young guys got their feet wet and that will pay off in the long run. My biggest worry are the veterans...on the OLine.
This post was edited on 9/5/15 at 8:09 pm
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Posted on 9/5/15 at 8:09 pm to reedus23
I'm disregarding everything. This is the Pinkel formula, and likely why we keep the crap games at the beginning of the schedule.
First game is always a piece of shite. We'll see how next week goes.
First game is always a piece of shite. We'll see how next week goes.
Posted on 9/5/15 at 9:03 pm to reedus23
Well, I guess this is why they schedule SEMO for the 1st game. They have some work to do but nothing that can't be fixed.
The defense looked good. I liked seeing the d - linemen in the backfield making tackles for loss.
On offense, Maty had two TD passes dropped. The line broke down on protection but he made some long passes and short ones. Solid game on his part except for that comical 2nd interception he threw. Drew Locke is going to be special as we all knew.
Don't know what to make of the team yet. When the 2013 team had a tough time beating Arkansas State I thought it was going to be a long season. That team did not show much until the fourth game. Maybe this one will be like that.
The defense looked good. I liked seeing the d - linemen in the backfield making tackles for loss.
On offense, Maty had two TD passes dropped. The line broke down on protection but he made some long passes and short ones. Solid game on his part except for that comical 2nd interception he threw. Drew Locke is going to be special as we all knew.
Don't know what to make of the team yet. When the 2013 team had a tough time beating Arkansas State I thought it was going to be a long season. That team did not show much until the fourth game. Maybe this one will be like that.
Posted on 9/5/15 at 9:11 pm to reedus23
Going into this game, I didn't figure on seeing many depth position players. I was surprised to see quite a few depth players on both sides of the ball. To me, that tells me their depth players have talent and that's a really good sign of things to come.
Offense.
I still think Mauk looked better than last year. His numbers may not represent that, but watching him, he really refrained from getting happy feet too much. His arm looked good. But I was glad to see him not run as much. I think it's something he can improve on. Lock. Wow what else can you say but legit. He looks like he's been here for three years already. Balls on target, calm and cool in the pocket, he looked awesome.
Glad to see they are using their TE more in the pass game and they are catching the ball.
O line play was disappointing. That's really the only way I can say it. Not good. Looked better in the 4th quarter. But as a whole, just not there.
RB's. I think Witter will improve along with the O line play. I think he is a good back. The defense was really crashing the line on runs today. Not easy to run for yards when the defense is keying on the run game like that. I think Hunt is just a fill in. Not bad but not good. Morgan though hasn't played for some time. There is rust to knock off. I think Steward will be a viable back, but they have to give him reps. I think he's playing a little cautious right now to. I think he'll be there sometime this year.
Receivers really impressed me today, probably because I've heard nothing but bad things and doom and gloom all summer. They will not catch every ball, and this is a young group. I liked seeing the ball spread around also. But overall, I think they had a decent day considering.
Defense.
What can you say? This defense is lights out. That D line is going to be in the heads of every team they play this year. They really turned it up in the second half. They absolutely shredded SEMO's offensive line. They beat their QB senseless. He had no fight left in him in the later part of the second half. They all looked impressive. Depth doesn't seem to be an issue right now either. Really don't have an opinion on the secondary because the D line was on top of the offense most the time. Brothers impressed me also. He seemed to be everywhere. They were playing SEC style defense and it showed. SEMO's offense looked frazzled at the end.
In the end, they should have scored more points but it is what it is. I'll reserve my enthusiasm until we get into conference play.
Offense.
I still think Mauk looked better than last year. His numbers may not represent that, but watching him, he really refrained from getting happy feet too much. His arm looked good. But I was glad to see him not run as much. I think it's something he can improve on. Lock. Wow what else can you say but legit. He looks like he's been here for three years already. Balls on target, calm and cool in the pocket, he looked awesome.
Glad to see they are using their TE more in the pass game and they are catching the ball.
O line play was disappointing. That's really the only way I can say it. Not good. Looked better in the 4th quarter. But as a whole, just not there.
RB's. I think Witter will improve along with the O line play. I think he is a good back. The defense was really crashing the line on runs today. Not easy to run for yards when the defense is keying on the run game like that. I think Hunt is just a fill in. Not bad but not good. Morgan though hasn't played for some time. There is rust to knock off. I think Steward will be a viable back, but they have to give him reps. I think he's playing a little cautious right now to. I think he'll be there sometime this year.
Receivers really impressed me today, probably because I've heard nothing but bad things and doom and gloom all summer. They will not catch every ball, and this is a young group. I liked seeing the ball spread around also. But overall, I think they had a decent day considering.
Defense.
What can you say? This defense is lights out. That D line is going to be in the heads of every team they play this year. They really turned it up in the second half. They absolutely shredded SEMO's offensive line. They beat their QB senseless. He had no fight left in him in the later part of the second half. They all looked impressive. Depth doesn't seem to be an issue right now either. Really don't have an opinion on the secondary because the D line was on top of the offense most the time. Brothers impressed me also. He seemed to be everywhere. They were playing SEC style defense and it showed. SEMO's offense looked frazzled at the end.
In the end, they should have scored more points but it is what it is. I'll reserve my enthusiasm until we get into conference play.
Posted on 9/5/15 at 11:14 pm to reedus23
There is some fun to be had on the MSB right now with a bugeater and a couple B1G fans.
Posted on 9/5/15 at 11:49 pm to reedus23
OL and return game need to show more. Hansbrough injury hopefully doesn't linger all year. Penalties being down is a good sign after last year. Can't wait until next weekend.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 12:50 am to reedus23
Ol was hot garbage. That said play calling was a joke. There was a distinct pattern .
Posted on 9/6/15 at 6:59 am to reedus23
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What's your take on the game?
Concerned.
It was a tale of two halves. In the first, Missouri concentrated almost exclusively on the pass and, for the most part, had their way. Lots of playmaking potential on display from Drew Lock to the young wideouts. And aside from the ill-advised Mauk heavo-ho, MM looked in OOC form.
The side-by-side eye comparison with Lock and Mauk was startling. Lock's accuracy and ability to hit a receiver in stride is special. If they can adequately recruit offensive lineman and running backs around Lock, the next few years could be the Golden Age within the Golden Age of Gary Pinkel's coaching career.
Onto the second half... They looked determined to establish the run and failed miserably. As feared, there's no running game behind Hansborough. Witter's truncated given name is appropriate, Ish. What we saw in 2014 remains - he's too small with no power. It's too soon to pass judgement on the other reserves, but with RH graduating this spring the fear extends to 2016.
The offensive line obviously needs work. I won't pretend to know the Xs and Os of it, but to average less than 3.0 YPC against a blood donor is concerning. As were some of the QB pressures allowed with simple DL line stunts.
Defensively they looked outstanding, especially given the youth and inexperience of the defensive line. I don't recall the front four making a sack but they generated tons of pressure, so it was a nice start. It was interesting to see the new wrinkles Barry Odom brought to the defense. They're probably going to need them once the conference schedule commences.
Overall a nice debut. Hopefully they can whip that Arky State arse like USC did next week.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 8:21 am to reedus23
Pretty much thought the same as very one else on here.
Impressed With:
Lock(Holy crap the accuracy!)
D-Line U
Penton on D
Meh
Mauk(Looked about the same to me. He did stay in the pocket longer when allowed to.)
Disappointed With:
RB Depth
O-Line (I doubt we've seen their final form)
Kick return (needs a lot of work)
Hopefully this team is as determined to get better week after week like last year. Solid performace overall.
Impressed With:
Lock(Holy crap the accuracy!)
D-Line U
Penton on D
Meh
Mauk(Looked about the same to me. He did stay in the pocket longer when allowed to.)
Disappointed With:
RB Depth
O-Line (I doubt we've seen their final form)
Kick return (needs a lot of work)
Hopefully this team is as determined to get better week after week like last year. Solid performace overall.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 10:58 am to reedus23
Brothers is a machine. Think he had 16 tackles and a blocked punt. Run defense is very stout. Only problem with the defense all day was our DEs losing contain a few times but that is fixable. Really encouraged by the defense. Looked good and should get better.
On offense. Very concerned about the RBs behind Hansbrough. There is no excuse to have this many scholarship RBs and not have one decent one behind RH. OL was shite. That's very discouraging. Too much experience up there to have that bad of a day. Have to fix it. I've never seen a RB get creamed as consistently as Witter. It's kind of impressive how he manages to get smashed 6-7 times a game.
Mauk wasn't bad. Made a few bad decisions, but overall he played decent. I like our athletes at WR. They just have to he those drops under control. Both Moore and Brown dropped a TD pass, but they caught one as well. Lock looked great. Throws a very accurate ball, and great field vision.
Special teams. Baggett was solid. Fatoney punted well. The return teams were a mess. Penton had a really bad day returning punts.
On offense. Very concerned about the RBs behind Hansbrough. There is no excuse to have this many scholarship RBs and not have one decent one behind RH. OL was shite. That's very discouraging. Too much experience up there to have that bad of a day. Have to fix it. I've never seen a RB get creamed as consistently as Witter. It's kind of impressive how he manages to get smashed 6-7 times a game.
Mauk wasn't bad. Made a few bad decisions, but overall he played decent. I like our athletes at WR. They just have to he those drops under control. Both Moore and Brown dropped a TD pass, but they caught one as well. Lock looked great. Throws a very accurate ball, and great field vision.
Special teams. Baggett was solid. Fatoney punted well. The return teams were a mess. Penton had a really bad day returning punts.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 12:40 pm to reedus23
My take is this was the typical first game under Pinkel. Nothing but basic, vanilla, predictable stuff. Seems I have to point this out every year after the first game against a cupcake.
Lots and lots and lots of athleticism and potential everywhere on this team, more so than any roster I can remember under GP. This will be a dangerous team by the end of the year, and if they avoid a midseason lull they can compete for/win the east again.
DlineZou plays on.
Lots and lots and lots of athleticism and potential everywhere on this team, more so than any roster I can remember under GP. This will be a dangerous team by the end of the year, and if they avoid a midseason lull they can compete for/win the east again.
DlineZou plays on.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 3:47 pm to reedus23
Extremely Concerned
The fact of the matter is this was a sub par FCS team and we are pretty much making excuses for why we did not blow them out by 50.
Defense played their part. I think Barry Odom will end up being recognized as the best DC in the SEC this year.
We are an SEC team, with SEC players at the line of scrimmage and we also consider ourselves in the top tier of the conference. We should have displayed our physical will against that team in the trenches. 3 and outs against this team with our 1's in the 3rd and beginning of the 4th quarter, really? We are really excusing that BS?
Whatever coach or player talk that comes from the locker room whether that was the Boehm/Hansbrough injury, the inexperience, or the lack of focus should not be used to excuse what we say from an O line perspective on saturday.
Pinkel is not in the top 5 in SEC salaries with getting paid 4 million dollars to be average. If we are going to continue to schedule the way we schedule then we should put up the numbers to justify our superiority and our standing in the conference. Perception matters.
The fact of the matter is this was a sub par FCS team and we are pretty much making excuses for why we did not blow them out by 50.
Defense played their part. I think Barry Odom will end up being recognized as the best DC in the SEC this year.
We are an SEC team, with SEC players at the line of scrimmage and we also consider ourselves in the top tier of the conference. We should have displayed our physical will against that team in the trenches. 3 and outs against this team with our 1's in the 3rd and beginning of the 4th quarter, really? We are really excusing that BS?
Whatever coach or player talk that comes from the locker room whether that was the Boehm/Hansbrough injury, the inexperience, or the lack of focus should not be used to excuse what we say from an O line perspective on saturday.
Pinkel is not in the top 5 in SEC salaries with getting paid 4 million dollars to be average. If we are going to continue to schedule the way we schedule then we should put up the numbers to justify our superiority and our standing in the conference. Perception matters.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 6:06 pm to reedus23
biggest takeaway....O Line looked terrible. With Boehm and Hansbrough out, running game was relatively nonexistent. SEMO is a middling FCS team at best, and our O-line struggled with them.
Punt/kick returns: Murph was really something special. I'll take a year with no fumbles as positive. Fatony had a heck of a leg on kickoffs. Decent punts too. Baggett was solid.
WR: Young receivers are young. Had a few great plays...but also had signs of growing pains. Particularly on the drive where Mauk's 2nd INT got overturned. Mauk threw the ball expecting Blair to cut across instead of continuing upfield into the safety. When it got overturned, Mauk threw the ball to the outside, and you could see him visibly disgusted with Brown for cutting 5 yards late. Did see some good things, particularly the TD catches. ON the opposite side, multiple easy drops. Talent is obviously there...just need some real game time experience.
Mauk: Showed more poise in the pocket than last year. Really dumb 1st INT. After that, played pretty well, given the Oline breakdowns and no running game. So good with the deep ball. 12-22 isn't terrible, especially considering a couple of those drops. 12-22 is 54%. Make just 2 of those drops completions and that becomes 63%. There was alot of good from his performance...but 2-3 moments of Bad Mauk. Would still like to see him scramble a bit more. Pretty solid overall,given the O-line struggles.
Lock: Really good first drive. Started 4-4 finding open receivers in the intermediate game. Couldn't finish with a TD, but great opening drive. The rest of the game was 2-6, with a screen pass and the broken play touchdown. Was really glad to see Hunt get that TD. Coaches kept his drives simple, as expected. Solid debut.
RB: Disappointing. No running game. Pray Hansbrough gets and stays healthy.
Defense: Awesome. Linebackers especially. DLine depth is still a little scary. Cannot afford any injuries. Dennis and Brothers tore it up.
Overall: Defense looking top notch...although it wasn't exactly a high octane opponent. Offense was OK. Mauk looked good besides 3 "bad Mauk" moments. Oline was awful. Need to see improvement from OL and WR next week.
Punt/kick returns: Murph was really something special. I'll take a year with no fumbles as positive. Fatony had a heck of a leg on kickoffs. Decent punts too. Baggett was solid.
WR: Young receivers are young. Had a few great plays...but also had signs of growing pains. Particularly on the drive where Mauk's 2nd INT got overturned. Mauk threw the ball expecting Blair to cut across instead of continuing upfield into the safety. When it got overturned, Mauk threw the ball to the outside, and you could see him visibly disgusted with Brown for cutting 5 yards late. Did see some good things, particularly the TD catches. ON the opposite side, multiple easy drops. Talent is obviously there...just need some real game time experience.
Mauk: Showed more poise in the pocket than last year. Really dumb 1st INT. After that, played pretty well, given the Oline breakdowns and no running game. So good with the deep ball. 12-22 isn't terrible, especially considering a couple of those drops. 12-22 is 54%. Make just 2 of those drops completions and that becomes 63%. There was alot of good from his performance...but 2-3 moments of Bad Mauk. Would still like to see him scramble a bit more. Pretty solid overall,given the O-line struggles.
Lock: Really good first drive. Started 4-4 finding open receivers in the intermediate game. Couldn't finish with a TD, but great opening drive. The rest of the game was 2-6, with a screen pass and the broken play touchdown. Was really glad to see Hunt get that TD. Coaches kept his drives simple, as expected. Solid debut.
RB: Disappointing. No running game. Pray Hansbrough gets and stays healthy.
Defense: Awesome. Linebackers especially. DLine depth is still a little scary. Cannot afford any injuries. Dennis and Brothers tore it up.
Overall: Defense looking top notch...although it wasn't exactly a high octane opponent. Offense was OK. Mauk looked good besides 3 "bad Mauk" moments. Oline was awful. Need to see improvement from OL and WR next week.
This post was edited on 9/6/15 at 6:13 pm
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