tobythetiger

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This is kind of bull shite. I'll say this...if we get someone who does better, and I hope we do, we'll have gotten pretty lucky.

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Absolutely.

Fist off, Thanks coach. Not just for the wins, but for how you ran the program, and took care of the kids who came through.

Second off, it'll be a great thing if we get someone better. Don't know that we will though. Some just can't appreciate the job that GP did here. Hope we don't have to go through several failed or mediocre HCs for them to gain the respect for the job GP did here.

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Everyone assumes Lock will want to leave after 2017, yet nobody mentions attending Missouri was the fulfillment of a life-long dream. Then he remained loyal when some of the glamour boy coaches tried to poach him. I could easily see him remaining loyal to his teammates and goal of winning an SEC championship at Mizzou

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Well, the longest I can see him staying is through the 2018 season. Just don't see the kid turning his back on the NFL $$$ more than once.

You're only likely to have one year as a starter either way. But I think he has a better shot at unseating Mauk next year this way than if he redshirted. Again, you're going to get the most out of his time here without the redshirt. This way you get 3 years of on field production rather than only two with a redshirt. The absolute longest the kid will be on the roster is 4 years. Pretty much a no brainer, like I said.

Nice to have a starter quality backup. Even if he only gets one year as the starter either way, you've gotten two backup years also. Instead of one, with one year not getting anything on the field from him. Last I looked 2>1.

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So they played the kid after all an pulled the redshirt?

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Despite what some others are saying, it was the logical thing to do. If Blaine Gabbert can be a top 10 pick after three years at MU, then this kid will be a lottery pick. He will be here three years, 4 max. Why waste one on a redshirt when he's the best backup QB option on the squad? You going to get as much, if not more, time from the kid on the field by NOT redshirting him. You redshirt him, then he backs up next year and likely starts for one and is gone. Play him this year and get him some experience (and standing with his team mates) and then compete next year for the #1 job, and you might get two years as a starter from him. Mauk is a team leader who's won a lot of games already at MU. Can't just kick him to the curb like some seem to think they should. Pinkel does not do that to his team leaders, for good reason.

I don't think you can say this is not serious. For now it would appear to be a rogue employee (or employees) who didn't like Luhnow, but however high up the food chain this goes, heads need to roll. We aren't the Patriots. Own it and do the right things. That too is part of the Cardinal Way.

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So once we're looking out of state, particularly among the more highly recruited guys, it's just going to take time before they commit, especially before they pull the trigger on a school like Mizzou.

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^^^ This^^^

KT just worries too much. Or is it MM? Both, I guess. :cheers:

Thing is, we don't know for certain if all or any of those kids will be back. Curiously, one of the guys it seemed certain would transfer (Isabel) looks to be staying. Honestly I think that's one kid to be optimistic about. Having a PG who can score (provided he always remembers he's a PG) is a big weapon to have. He needs to make better decisions, which should come with experience. Teams won't be able to back off him, if he plays to his potential.

I did say 'perhaps', and that was based on only losing a couple of kids. But go ahead and pretend I predicted a big turn around, dude.

'Progress' does not mean a winning record-it can (and in the context in which I was speaking) progression by the players individually (not unreasonable to expect), more consistent competitiveness, and some play of the floor that actually appeared to have a 'system' behind it.

Hard thing to swallow, but true.

ETA: We could lose 1-2 kids and still (perhaps?) show improvement next year. But the worse case scenario of a mass exodus would seem to be looming.

I think the most likely outcome is we end up with no franchise at all.