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Are offensive linemen headed for 400 pounds?
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:43 am
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:43 am
Georgia just stole a New Jersey recruit from Wisconsin. His name is Madden.
He is 6'7" and 345 pounds. At the age of 18.
Georgia may make him lose some weight, but at that age, he is likely to get bigger. Through lifting weights, he may even put on more pounds.
I foresee a day when offensive linemen reach 400 pounds.
Think about this: During the Arkansas vs. Texas bowl game, the producers showed the weights of the Arkansas 1964 national championship football team. Most of the offensive linemen were around just 200 pounds...smaller than most of today's running backs.
He is 6'7" and 345 pounds. At the age of 18.
Georgia may make him lose some weight, but at that age, he is likely to get bigger. Through lifting weights, he may even put on more pounds.
I foresee a day when offensive linemen reach 400 pounds.
Think about this: During the Arkansas vs. Texas bowl game, the producers showed the weights of the Arkansas 1964 national championship football team. Most of the offensive linemen were around just 200 pounds...smaller than most of today's running backs.
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:45 am to samson'sseed
I don't know but DL and LB are probably gonna get smaller and more conditioned in the coming years.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:45 am to samson'sseed
Aren't there restrictions on weight? 400 lbs sounds terrible.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:48 am to samson'sseed
Going into the 2014 season....
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The top 12 OL BIG Men in college football(minus Elam):
1-Tulane’s Redshirtfreshman OG Jason Stewart is unofficially the heaviest O-lineman in the country at 6’4? and 395 lbs.
2-USC true freshman OT Damien Mama, listed at 6’5-370 lbs.
3-Baylor junior LG LaQuan McGowan, 6’7-385 lbs.
4-Georgia Tech freshman LG Shamire Devine, 6’7-370
5-Washington senior RG James Atoe, 6’7-375
–Kentucky freshman DT Matt Elam, 6’7-375 (on defense, I know; had to mention him though)
7-Alabama freshman OT Brendon Hill, 6’6-370
8-North Texas senior RG Shawn McKinney 6’4-365
9-Kentucky senior OT John Guenschlaeger, 6’11-364
10-Troy sophomore RG Xavier Fields, 6’4-360
11-Georgia State LT soph. Michael Ivory 6’5-360
12-Florida senior RG Trenton Brown, 6’8-354
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 9:50 am
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:48 am to samson'sseed
No, I don't think so. 400 pounds you just have no endurance. Herman Johnson was 380ish at 6'7 and I was surprised how good he was for entire games.
Then again, about 30-40 years ago, linemen probably averaged 250ish. Nobody thought we'd see the day we'd have athletic 300+ pounders on the line.
In fact, here is UGA's 1980 National Championship starting OL:
LT: Jeff Harper, 6-3, 245, Sr.
LG: Jim Blakewood, 6-2, 247, Jr.
C: Hugh Nall, 6-0, 235, Sr.
RG: Tim Morrison, 6-3, 254, Sr.
RT: Nat Hudson, 6-3, 265, Sr.
Crazy to think about
Then again, about 30-40 years ago, linemen probably averaged 250ish. Nobody thought we'd see the day we'd have athletic 300+ pounders on the line.
In fact, here is UGA's 1980 National Championship starting OL:
LT: Jeff Harper, 6-3, 245, Sr.
LG: Jim Blakewood, 6-2, 247, Jr.
C: Hugh Nall, 6-0, 235, Sr.
RG: Tim Morrison, 6-3, 254, Sr.
RT: Nat Hudson, 6-3, 265, Sr.
Crazy to think about
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:49 am to samson'sseed
I would think that it is a rare bodytype/frame that can safely hold 400 pounds. Add to that the ability to safely carry that weight and still be athletic as a lineman needs to be, you may find a few here and there but it will most likely never become the norm.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:53 am to samson'sseed
Hope not. 400 lbs is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:56 am to samson'sseed
Linemen? Hell, it looks like NFL RB's are headed in that direction.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:20 am to samson'sseed
Make them play both ways and you won't see many linemen at 300+ lbs.
I wonder how many of these kids suffer from heart problems and bad knees, etc. in later life.
I wonder how many of these kids suffer from heart problems and bad knees, etc. in later life.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:24 am to samson'sseed
400 LBS? Step ya game up playa...
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:27 am to samson'sseed
there have been several plus 400 pound HS football players on the radar recently, and none have shown anything like the ability to play D1 ball, due to bad athleticism.
A 400 pound kid that was "healthy" would probably need to be over 7 feet tall, and would still have the question of how well his knee joints could take the strain.
Your assumptions on this topic are way off base, as usual.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:38 am to samson'sseed
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Are offensive linemen headed for 400 pounds?
I don't think it's really a matter of weight. There are guys in the NFL who are under 300 lbs who are among the best OL in the world, and then there are guys in that same elite category who are 340 lbs It's really about if a guy can move, move defenders, protect the QB, and makes smart decisions.
So one day, I wouldn't be shocked to see an elite NFL OL who is close to 400 lbs, b/c he wouldn't be there unless he could do the other things well. What also comes into play is the frame of the guys. You can have two guys who are both 6'6" 300 lbs, but one looks more in shape because of a broader frame in the shoulders and hips.
There are plenty of giant 350 lbs OL even in HS, who are horrible players b/c they can't move around at all and you would probably just classify them as out of shape. However, if you find one who is in shape and can move, that's awesome.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:43 am to samson'sseed
When Willie Totten was tossing to Jerry Rice at MVSU, their OL averaged 400 lbs. They were called "the ton of fun".
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:51 am to samson'sseed
I doubt we'll ever see it as the norm.
There have been tremendous advances in nutrition and training that have lead to the size difference between the modern OL and those of a few decades ago. There's really only so much more that can be developed and advanced in those areas outside of legitimate artificial genetic enhancement
There have been tremendous advances in nutrition and training that have lead to the size difference between the modern OL and those of a few decades ago. There's really only so much more that can be developed and advanced in those areas outside of legitimate artificial genetic enhancement
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 11:54 am
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:07 pm to samson'sseed
At 6'7 that weight isn't that bad...however 6'0 350 that's terribly unhealthy
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:36 pm to samson'sseed
We had Big Dan McCullers not long ago and at the time he was the biggest player in CFB. Dan was too much of a gentle giant and would often play like he was half his size. On rare occasions, he would get mad and it was amazing when he did but he was very inconsistent in terms of playing angry.
I think that's a risk you run with guys this big. They grow up so much bigger than everyone else and playing against competition so much smaller that they play not to hurt their opponent (which they could easily do in HS and middle school).
And then there's conditioning.. I don't care how well you wear it there's a point where that much weight is bad for you and bad for your play.
I think that's a risk you run with guys this big. They grow up so much bigger than everyone else and playing against competition so much smaller that they play not to hurt their opponent (which they could easily do in HS and middle school).
And then there's conditioning.. I don't care how well you wear it there's a point where that much weight is bad for you and bad for your play.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:53 pm to samson'sseed
No, because F still equals M*A.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:45 pm to samson'sseed
No, but most bammers are
Posted on 1/26/15 at 2:22 pm to samson'sseed
An early death is where they're headed.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 2:47 pm to samson'sseed
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Georgia just stole a New Jersey recruit from Wisconsin. His name is Madden.
We (UGA) didn't steal anybody from anywhere. A slip up in admissions advice on what he needed to qualify for enrollment left him short on making it into Wisconsin from what I have read. He has high grade marks and will probably be on the academic honor roll while in Athens.
We offered (like a ton of other schools did) and he chose UGA over everybody else.
I don't normally follow recruiting, but this was on the front page of the ajc so there.
Forsee this!
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 2:49 pm
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