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Alabama looks to be pulling away
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:41 am
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:41 am
Great article in this Louisiana newspaper.
When it comes to LSU and the University of Alabama, it’s a great rivalry on the football field. But when the stadium lights go off and the two schools are compared academically, Alabama looks to be pulling away.
Alabama could boast that it is in the midst of an academic growth spurt and is attracting more of the prestigious National Merit Scholars than any other public university in the country.
LSU could counter that it is generally regarded as a more well-rounded university with greater course offerings available at a more affordable price.
What can’t be argued is that both schools have absorbed potentially devastating budget cuts over the past several years. While LSU is trying to hold onto what it had before the economy went south five years ago, Alabama prospered during the economic downturn, gaining momentum as the university increased the quality and quantity of its students and faculty.
Late last month, graduate student Nick Bertella was walking down The Strip, the section of University Boulevard that connects downtown Tuscaloosa with the University of Alabama campus. While mobs of shouting sorority women crisscrossed the street during their fall scavenger hunt, Bertella said that after seeing how different schools fared during the recession, he’s glad he chose Alabama over LSU in 2008.
Bertella considers LSU a good school, but the near constant expansion at Alabama— including new classroom buildings, new housing and new buses — confirmed to him that he made the right decision.
“I never really considered it as prestigious,” the 22-year-old marketing student said, “but now I see my degree differently. My opinion has definitely changed.”
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When it comes to LSU and the University of Alabama, it’s a great rivalry on the football field. But when the stadium lights go off and the two schools are compared academically, Alabama looks to be pulling away.
Alabama could boast that it is in the midst of an academic growth spurt and is attracting more of the prestigious National Merit Scholars than any other public university in the country.
LSU could counter that it is generally regarded as a more well-rounded university with greater course offerings available at a more affordable price.
What can’t be argued is that both schools have absorbed potentially devastating budget cuts over the past several years. While LSU is trying to hold onto what it had before the economy went south five years ago, Alabama prospered during the economic downturn, gaining momentum as the university increased the quality and quantity of its students and faculty.
Late last month, graduate student Nick Bertella was walking down The Strip, the section of University Boulevard that connects downtown Tuscaloosa with the University of Alabama campus. While mobs of shouting sorority women crisscrossed the street during their fall scavenger hunt, Bertella said that after seeing how different schools fared during the recession, he’s glad he chose Alabama over LSU in 2008.
Bertella considers LSU a good school, but the near constant expansion at Alabama— including new classroom buildings, new housing and new buses — confirmed to him that he made the right decision.
“I never really considered it as prestigious,” the 22-year-old marketing student said, “but now I see my degree differently. My opinion has definitely changed.”
More here
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:44 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
We better on the field. We better in the classroom. We better at teabagging.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:44 am to Alahunter
No idea why the state of Louisiana has to be obsessed with the Alabama.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:49 am to Alahunter
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LSU could counter that it is generally retarded
fify
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:50 am to Alahunter
I've lived in multiple cities in both states and I prefer Louisiana.
Although I must admit recently have been enjoying some of the outdoor recreation in the surrounding Birmingham area, Talladega Forest and Bankhead Forest and there are some pretty areas.
So there is that.
but Louisiana will always be superior, mainly because of the people.
Although I must admit recently have been enjoying some of the outdoor recreation in the surrounding Birmingham area, Talladega Forest and Bankhead Forest and there are some pretty areas.
So there is that.
but Louisiana will always be superior, mainly because of the people.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:53 am to Alahunter
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Graduates’ starting salaries:
LSU — $47,300
Alabama — $41,500
Graduates’ mid-career salaries:
LSU — $83,200
Alabama — $76,500
All that matters.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:53 am to tigerfan in bamaland
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but Louisiana will always be superior, mainly because of the people and food.
fify
I love Louisiana. I go at least twice a year to visit my brother in NO . . . and to eat.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:54 am to BobBarker
Cost of Living must be lower in Alabama. So it evens out. I guess, lol.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:56 am to BobBarker
Bob, think that has anything to do with the petroleum industry? Serious question.
Eta: why stop at undergrad?
Eta: why stop at undergrad?
This post was edited on 11/3/13 at 9:57 am
Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:00 am to BobBarker
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All that matters.
Not really.
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Alabama has grown its enrollment over the past decade from about 20,000 students in 2003 to just under 35,000 today. LSU, on the other hand, lost about 2,000 students over the same time, putting its current enrollment at just under 30,000
#decline
Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:04 am to Alahunter
Do these numbers include UAt UAb UAh? or just UAt?
Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:06 am to BobBarker
The Advocate had really pissed in their Wheaties this week when you couple this with Mathew Harris troll article in the Sports Section yesterday. They could have run this article any time but these two weeks and probably got a serious read but now you have to question their motives. Leaves one to wonder if the Advocate should move to Tuscaloosa...
When you break down the numbers they are still not very far apart. According to this article Bama was at one point about 10K - 12K students smaller than LSU???
Budget cut since 2008:
LSU — $129 million, 52 percent.
Alabama — $12.4 million, 33 percent.
In-state tuition:
LSU — $7,873
Alabama — $9,200
Out-of-state tuition:
LSU — $22,265
Alabama — $22,950
Enrollment:
LSU — 29,865
Enrollment — 33,602
Graduation rate:
LSU — 67 percent
Alabama — 67 percent
Retention Rate:
LSU— 84 percent
Alabama — 85 percent
Graduates’ starting salaries:
LSU — $47,300
Alabama — $41,500
Graduates’ mid-career salaries:
LSU — $83,200
Alabama — $76,500
Loan default rate:
LSU — 4.9 percent
Alabama 5.6 percent
Median borrowing:
LSU: $172 per month
Alabama $233 per month
Student to faculty ratio:
LSU — 23 to 1
Alabama 19 to 1
Endowment:
LSU — $311,656,000
Alabama — $539,969,000
Faculty changes over five years
LSU — Lost 220
Alabama — Added 408
Enrollment over 10 years
LSU — Declined by 1,369 students
Alabama — Grown by 14,003 students
State population:
Louisiana — 4,533,000
Alabama — 4,780,000
Number of four-year public universities:
Louisiana — 13
Alabama — 14
Sources: U.S. Department of Education, LSU and Alabama.
When you break down the numbers they are still not very far apart. According to this article Bama was at one point about 10K - 12K students smaller than LSU???
Budget cut since 2008:
LSU — $129 million, 52 percent.
Alabama — $12.4 million, 33 percent.
In-state tuition:
LSU — $7,873
Alabama — $9,200
Out-of-state tuition:
LSU — $22,265
Alabama — $22,950
Enrollment:
LSU — 29,865
Enrollment — 33,602
Graduation rate:
LSU — 67 percent
Alabama — 67 percent
Retention Rate:
LSU— 84 percent
Alabama — 85 percent
Graduates’ starting salaries:
LSU — $47,300
Alabama — $41,500
Graduates’ mid-career salaries:
LSU — $83,200
Alabama — $76,500
Loan default rate:
LSU — 4.9 percent
Alabama 5.6 percent
Median borrowing:
LSU: $172 per month
Alabama $233 per month
Student to faculty ratio:
LSU — 23 to 1
Alabama 19 to 1
Endowment:
LSU — $311,656,000
Alabama — $539,969,000
Faculty changes over five years
LSU — Lost 220
Alabama — Added 408
Enrollment over 10 years
LSU — Declined by 1,369 students
Alabama — Grown by 14,003 students
State population:
Louisiana — 4,533,000
Alabama — 4,780,000
Number of four-year public universities:
Louisiana — 13
Alabama — 14
Sources: U.S. Department of Education, LSU and Alabama.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:13 am to Alahunter
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the near constant expansion at Alabama— including new classroom buildings, new housing and new buses
Aha! Overexpansion. Enjoy the bubble, bro. Bama bout to become the next Blockbuster.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:14 am to tigerfan in bamaland
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Do these numbers include UAt UAb UAh? or just UAt?
I have no idea.

Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:24 am to RollDatRoll
Yeah, the numbers only include the Tuscaloosa campus. I had a professor tell me recently that our freshman engineering class this year was larger and had a higher act score than auburn haha.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:24 am to Alahunter
Tuscaloosa has a downtown? 

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