higgsBoson

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Maybe he'll score a point in the second half next year, because he lead ZERO scoring drives in the second half of any game last year. Rattler is not good, if you can't see it, you're blind.

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I don’t know if taking a QB was the best move, but I know Rattler is not the guy.

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Per ESPN. I agree. This draft is QB weak! Wait until next year and see what we have in Rattler. Build the team for the next quarterback whoever that is.

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The hard part of all of this is how much not having a QB pushes your timelines back. If you don’t have a QB you don’t have anything. Wait a year? What if that QB doesn’t work out. Missing out on a good QB is much worse than any other position. Playing the numbers game it makes sense to keep taking one until you find one.

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Carr’s contract is literally the biggest individual cap issue on the roster so

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Exactly. Carrs contract is why we can’t rebuild. We’re basically forced to extend everyone and run it back.

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You are correct, too many picks for too few roster spots. But they can sell picks or trade for future picks. Presti is great at getting value for anyone. The other day he took a player who he ended up cutting (takes on the salary) and got a 2nd round pick out of it for the favor.

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The too many picks is overblown. They’ve pushed beyond those issues. They have so many picks they can just overpay and it won’t make a dent.

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He played like straight arse in the play-in and he refused a $40M/year extension offer from us in the offseason. BI tanked his own value. Sure, it's possible we could have traded him for Scoot a year prior, but we'd all still be saying Griff is trash right now if he had done that. I'm not saying he isn't trash, but I don't know what else we could have expected to get right now

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I really wanted to trade him for Scoot two years ago. That would have been a better haul but we don’t know the full details. There was talk Portland and Charlotte wanted more assets than just BI. Likely it would have been BI + picks or BI + Dyson. Now in hindsight BI + a first or Dyson for number 2 or 3 last year is much better than what we actually ended up doing if you combine the BI and Murray trades. And yes again we wasted a bunch of assets waiting too long. But in isolation this trade is good.

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He has made first team all NBA 5 straight years and just led Dallas to a Finals less than 8 months ago. Nico Harris can say whatever he wants. He is an idiot and this trade will set that franchise back for an unknown amount of time.

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Exactly. Comparing this to Zion makes zero sense.

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Yes, when you trade for a guy and he breaks his hand in the first game of the season and misses 17 games then at the mid point of the season he tears his Achilles it is a disaster. No one’s fault, but still a disaster. Achilles is the worst injurty there is for a basketball player.

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As others stated, given what we have up in picks and Dyson, it was going to look very bad in a couple of years. The team clearly wasn’t built to compete and trading those assets without a BI trade lined up to recoup assets looks horrible even without the injury. It’s clear now Murray is not on our timeline and so it’s more wasted picks.

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That is delusional levels of hope. Herb will never be a #3. And a Zion-Herb-Missi core will never work in today’s game. You can’t get enough spacing from Trey and whatever draft pick.

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Missi can’t play 30+ minutes a game sure. But center by committee with big and small lineups always makes sense. We have potential seven foot center who can play with our guys which is big. We definitely need more shooting.

And I’m not sure how delusional it is. I’ve given up hope on a championship. If we hit in the draft the next few years we can have a solid team.

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And just think if we had kept the nba steals leader and one of the best wing defenders in the league and still only 21….

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The Murray trade was a massive disaster, especially with his injury. Another short sighted win now move that will cost us dearly. Doing that trade without a BI one in your pocket was one of the worst moves we’ve made.

However, given Dysons comments he clearly didn’t like it here so…

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We have a contending level post season surrounding cast. But we don’t have a contending level #1 or #2, so the surrounding cast means frick all. The Dejounte injury makes me more inclined to get max value for Herb now or this summer.

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Murray was a win now move that I think was short sighted. I don’t see him as part of this young core.

You keep Trey and Herb and Zion and then you try to get a number one between Zion growing up or your draft picks the next few years.

Trey can grow into your number two. Herb is a good number three. Then you just need Missi to grow into a legit starting C and some role players