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Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:36 am to Projectpat
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All that shite is null and void because JFF is a tPOS.
Because he has black teammates?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:39 am to FrankWhite'56
I know there's a lot of trolling going on in this thread, but some of the reactions from TAMU fans are really interesting. The op basically said there are some similarities between the way Archie Manning played and JFF plays. Apparently, some TAMU fans interpret that as blasphemy against JFF, who can't wait to leave College Station.
TAMU fans, how much of your opinion of Archie Manning is related to the fact that he wouldn't let JFF show up late at the Manning Passing Academy? I thought Archie handled that pretty tactfully. Will JFF smite you if you praise any other QB in history, or is his divine wrath solely directed toward people who make him face consequences for his spoiled brat behavior?
TAMU fans, how much of your opinion of Archie Manning is related to the fact that he wouldn't let JFF show up late at the Manning Passing Academy? I thought Archie handled that pretty tactfully. Will JFF smite you if you praise any other QB in history, or is his divine wrath solely directed toward people who make him face consequences for his spoiled brat behavior?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:42 am to dtmb
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The op basically said there are some similarities between the way Archie Manning played and JFF plays. Apparently, some TAMU fans interpret that as blasphemy against JFF, who can't wait to leave College Station.
Some of you really are purposely feigning ignorance. The OP was fine, but go back and look who turned this into a dumpster fire with the first response and the multiple concurrence with that response after:
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JFF should never be compared to Archie.
JFF is a count. Archie is an amazing person.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:43 am to dtmb
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Apparently, some TAMU fans interpret that as blasphemy against JFF, who can't wait to leave College Station.
No doubt this story brings out a lot of underlying resentment from A&M folks, due to the fact that Archie still has such a deep dying love for Ole Miss (hell, he still has a condo on the Square in Oxford), when they know deep down, JFF is just using them as a stepping stone for whom he will not even look back at in the rearview mirror on his way out of town.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:45 am to dtmb
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TAMU fans, how much of your opinion of Archie Manning is related to the fact that he wouldn't let JFF show up late at the Manning Passing Academy
I give as many fricks about this as Johnny gave about attending the Manning Academy. I just think the dad's playing career is vastly overrated and he wouldn't receive near the same recognition if he didn't have his sons. Peyton is obviously an NFL legend and Eli is a winner
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:50 am to dtmb
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The op basically said there are some similarities between the way Archie Manning played and JFF plays. Apparently, some TAMU fans interpret that as blasphemy against JFF, who can't wait to leave College Station.
The first response to this thread was someone butthurt the other way around (blasphemy that JFF can be compared to Manning).
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AMU fans, how much of your opinion of Archie Manning is related to the fact that he wouldn't let JFF show up late at the Manning Passing Academy? I thought Archie handled that pretty tactfully. Will JFF smite you if you praise any other QB in history, or is his divine wrath solely directed toward people who make him face consequences for his spoiled brat behavior?
Personally IDGAF about the Manning Passing Academy incident. Of any of the gaffes in the last offseason, Manziel's dismissal from the Academy was probably his lowest point, IMO. But I thought both parties handled it with tact and have since moved on. My opinion of the Mannings and JFF is uncolored by said incident.
I enjoy football, and I think it's cool to see that Archie was basically JFF before JFF. Really fascinating. They're both incredible quarterbacks, and despite what you obviously have made up your mind about regarding Manziel, appear to both be very decent, genuine people.
It'd be nice to get past all the damn trolling and give both their due, but that's probably asking for too much in this forum.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:52 am to Landsharks
On the field there could be made a comparison. Off the field they are as opposite as can be. As a human Archie is as good as they come. Manziel....
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:54 am to beHop
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it seems as if your entire fanbase has taken on the mentality of your douchebag quarterback.
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I don't understand how y'all love JFF so much. I mean isn't he a Texas fan?
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 9:55 am
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:58 am to otowntiger
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As a human Archie is as good as they come. Manziel....
Everyone keeps saying this, but no one will address:
1) Why Archie pressured Cooper to keep playing HS ball and continue his OM legacy despite his obvious declining physical health
2) How Archie can claim he is just a "good Dad" who wanted the best for his sons but was visibly pissed off and dejected during Peyton's commitment announcement. He didn't even try and hide it.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:59 am to Landsharks
I think they are similar, but Archie was stonger and broke more tackles. I also think he was a better passer than JFF; and also a better leader in that he never let his emotions affect his play. His will to win was second to none.
I don't think JFF's game will translate to the NFL as well as Archie's.
I don't think JFF's game will translate to the NFL as well as Archie's.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:00 am to ErnestTBassmaster
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His receiving corps was awful, too.
Some might say Wes Chandler was 'okay'.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:01 am to Projectpat
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The OP was fine, but go back and look who turned this into a dumpster fire with the first response and the multiple concurrence with that response
I saw that. The op also said he was talking about the way that Archie Manning and JFF play - not their character. But some people got defensive anyway and went after Archie Manning's pro career, as though the team's performance as a whole is a reflection on Archie's ability. The fact is that he put up amazing numbers on such incredibly bad teams.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:01 am to Landsharks
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it seems as if your entire fanbase has taken on the mentality of your douchebag quarterback.
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I don't understand how y'all love JFF so much. I mean isn't he a Texas fan?
He plays for Texas A&M. He wins for TAMU. I could give a frick who he roots for off the field. And by all accounts he's a good Aggie, too. He just doesn't take all the :rivalry: crap seriously that we fans live and die for. And there are a LOT of players like that.
Y'all have wanted a reason to hate him--it wouldn't matter if he was a saint, don't lie. shite, freaking Tebow got raked over the coals and you couldn't toe the line better than #15 did
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:02 am to Projectpat
1. If you watched the documentary (which it sounds like you didn't) cooper said that he started having problems with his hand when he got in Oxford.
2. If you are known as the best all time at your school, and your son who was the number 1 qb In the nation didn't go to your alma matter id be upset. He was being pressured by the coaches an everyone else in Oxford to push him there. He didn't and his so went to Tennessee which is understandably frustrating due to all of the shite he will get.
2. If you are known as the best all time at your school, and your son who was the number 1 qb In the nation didn't go to your alma matter id be upset. He was being pressured by the coaches an everyone else in Oxford to push him there. He didn't and his so went to Tennessee which is understandably frustrating due to all of the shite he will get.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:02 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I give as many fricks about this as Johnny gave about attending the Manning Academy. I just think the dad's playing career is vastly overrated and he wouldn't receive near the same recognition if he didn't have his sons. Peyton is obviously an NFL legend and Eli is a winner
WAAY off base. Archie has been a legend in the SEC since his time at Ole Miss. My ole man still talks about the 33-32 game between Bama and Ole Miss. Best I dividual performance in his mind, that he remembers while growing up. He also spoke of Pete Marovich at LSU as the best he'd ever seen at that position. He was the JFF of his time with a more humble approach, as most were back in that day. JFF will be talked about in the same breath as Archie, on the football field that is, not his character.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:03 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Yeah, since that's how I measure my life/career/memories -- on whether or not a 20 year old will continue to associate with his university the way I associate with my university.
when they know deep down, JFF is just using them as a stepping stone for whom he will not even look back at in the rearview mirror on his way out of town.
He's a college football QB -- arguably (well, not arguably for those of us who have watched him for 17 games) the G.O.A.T. in the college ranks. The fact that he plays for my university makes watching the football games at my university fricking awesome.
Then I move on with the rest of my life for 6 more days during the Fall... and the rest of the year outside of football season. Somehow many of us are able to lead stable, successful careers outside of our parents' basements, and free of the worries that appear to occupy many who troll these boards.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:03 am to Projectpat
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Projectpat
Question for people who watched the book of manning.
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As a human Archie is as good as they come. Manziel....
Everyone keeps saying this, but no one will address:
1) Why Archie pressured Cooper to keep playing HS ball and continue his OM legacy despite his obvious declining physical health
2) How Archie can claim he is just a "good Dad" who wanted the best for his sons but was visibly pissed off and dejected during Peyton's commitment announcement. He didn't even try and hide it.
1. How in the hell do YOUUUUUUUUUU know if Archie pressured Cooper? And why on God's green earth would Archie pressure Cooper AFTER his spinal stenois diagnosis?
2. How do you YOUUUUUUUUUUU know that Archie was pissed off and dejected? Did you ever stop and think maybe he was very emotional that his son was going to play Division I SEC football, and was very proud and happy for him ????
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:04 am to TbirdSpur2010
I actually love watching him play and think he is great but some aggressive think nobody can be as close as good to him and definitely not better.
Aggies*
Aggies*
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 10:05 am
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:05 am to MetryTyger
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I think they are similar, but Archie was stonger and broke more tackles.
Archie=stronger
Manziel=more elusive
Pros and cons to each, but both players were and are devastating with their respective strengths.
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I also think he was a better passer than JFF
Debatable.
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also a better leader in that he never let his emotions affect his play
When have Manziel's emotions negatively affected his play? If nothing else JFF's competitiveness is what makes him most dangerous. The bigger the chip on his shoulder, the better he plays. You talk about Archie's will to win and I don't doubt it for a second. But everyone who's worked with JFF speaks just as glowingly of his drive to win, as well.
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I don't think JFF's game will translate to the NFL as well as Archie's.
Debatable, again.
But what isn't debatable is that Archie was ahead of his time and played against lesser athletes than Manziel. JFF doing it in this day and age is as astonishing as Archie doing what most hadn't seen before and couldn't keep up with.
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