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LSU-Alabama was the pinnacle, but SEC is headed for downward slide
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:30 am to TigersWon
I hate to say it but that really was too long... I really couldn't take the time to read it.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:37 am to TigersWon
[quote]Its top teams will still sign the best recruits, largely because those players live in the South. But we may not see too many squads quite as loaded as the pair that butted heads Saturday night. Read more: LINK ]
Stewart Mandel's reasoning is based on Texas A&M and Missouri entering the conference.
I definitely don't agree. The top programs in the SEC will continue to recruit top talent, keeping their programs at the top of the standings each year.
Stewart Mandel's reasoning is based on Texas A&M and Missouri entering the conference.
I definitely don't agree. The top programs in the SEC will continue to recruit top talent, keeping their programs at the top of the standings each year.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:38 am to TigersWon
The top teams will still be the top teams. LSU is absolutely stacked for the next couple of years to come. So is Alabama.
But, I agree that the Missouri addition is terrible.
But, I agree that the Missouri addition is terrible.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:40 am to TigersWon
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SEC is headed for downward slide
lulz
We return almost everyone and will 99% most likely vastly improve at QB. Everyone else in the SEC is losing quite a bit and will be pretty young.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:41 am to mrbayoublu
Not entirely true. How do you think auburn has landed so many good recruits lately. "hey we have no depth on our team, and you're reallly good so you'll have a good chance at starting as a freshman."
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:43 am to TigersWon
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Its top teams will still sign the best recruits, largely because those players live in the South. But we may not see too many squads quite as loaded as the pair that butted heads Saturday night.
I read stuff like this and it just shows how little these guys actually know. For instance, how many of our guys are home grown. I don't see many kids leaving LA to go play for Mizzou or A&M. Sure, some may get a way, but most that do aren't even offered by LSU.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:44 am to mrbayoublu
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Stewart Mandel's reasoning is based on Texas A&M and Missouri entering the conference.
That may make the top teams better, since they will now gain a recruiting foothold in Texas and Missouri.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:48 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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We return almost everyone and will 99% most likely vastly improve at QB. Everyone else in the SEC is losing quite a bit and will be pretty young.
Wow.
Talk about missing the point.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:49 am to Volvagia
Well this was Bama's dream team.. .They will still have a lot of talent, but these may be their losses this year.
Richardson
Chapman
Harris
Upshaw
Hightower
Kirkpatrick
Menzie
Barron
Maze
Hanks
Smelley
Vlachos
Jones
Richardson
Chapman
Harris
Upshaw
Hightower
Kirkpatrick
Menzie
Barron
Maze
Hanks
Smelley
Vlachos
Jones
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:50 am to darkstarr_drgga
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I read stuff like this and it just shows how little these guys actually know. For instance, how many of our guys are home grown. I don't see many kids leaving LA to go play for Mizzou or A&M. Sure, some may get a way, but most that do aren't even offered by LSU.
Ive been less and less impressed by Mandel over the years...How does Mizzou and A&M prevent the upper tier from staying upper tier? A&M can and most likely will get better and be even with Arky but they will still have trouble recruiting against LSU for the foreseeable future. They will have a unique niche in texas which LSU hasnt been hitting much lately and A&M will improve by keeping local talent, not by poaching other SEC schools talent.
These two moves allow the conference to make more money. Which will allow better facilities bigger stadiums more academic help which in turn helps recruiting which in turn brings in more wins which allows better facilities and the cycle goes on and on.
The only possible way the additions can hurt the top of the SEC is if there are no new tv deals and there is two more hands in the same size pot.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:51 am to Adam Banks
Miles and Petrino will carry this conference for the next 5-10 years. No worries.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:53 am to TigersWon
The SEC become more dominant when they added two mediocre programs in Arkansas and South Carolina... in doing so they were able to play a conference championship game, showcasing the league and making additional revenue that other conferences did not have the opportunity to generate
The addition of Missouri and Texas A&M is a very similar move - it adds more television sets and more in conference games (SEC will expand from 48 regular season conference games per year to 56 regular season conference games per year) that can be televised.
MU and A&M do not have to be elite football teams for this type of move to make a lot of sense. In fact if the SEC had added two powerhouses instead of Arky/USC or MU/A&M they might have ended up being less successful not more
The addition of Missouri and Texas A&M is a very similar move - it adds more television sets and more in conference games (SEC will expand from 48 regular season conference games per year to 56 regular season conference games per year) that can be televised.
MU and A&M do not have to be elite football teams for this type of move to make a lot of sense. In fact if the SEC had added two powerhouses instead of Arky/USC or MU/A&M they might have ended up being less successful not more
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:53 am to allin2010
He isn't talking about teams next year.
He is talking about brand dilution down the stretch.
He is talking about brand dilution down the stretch.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:55 am to molsusports
To me the big question is this:
Do A&M and Mizzori give us more money through the markets they open up than we lose by now having to split the pot 15 ways.
Do A&M and Mizzori give us more money through the markets they open up than we lose by now having to split the pot 15 ways.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:58 am to TigersWon
I agree with him. This isn't just a game to most of us, it's a way of life. I don't want two outsiders to ruin it.
Missouri and Texas A&M don't act like us, drink like us, look like us, and certainly don't play football like us. Slive's greed may be the downfall of the conference.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Missouri and Texas A&M don't act like us, drink like us, look like us, and certainly don't play football like us. Slive's greed may be the downfall of the conference.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 11:59 am
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:01 pm to allin2010
IMO, Mandel has a point about Missouri diluting the character of the SEC as well as the on-field product, but I think he overstates the effects. Also, I don't think A&M dilutes the product in any way other than the geographic distance fans will have to travel.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:01 pm to rebeltider
I'm not worried about the football prowess of the conference. We've always been loaded and always will be.
I just can't get excited about Missouri and Texas A&M.
I'm too young to remember, but how did fans of the current member schools take the additions of Arkansas and South Cackalacky in 1992?
I just can't get excited about Missouri and Texas A&M.
I'm too young to remember, but how did fans of the current member schools take the additions of Arkansas and South Cackalacky in 1992?
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:02 pm to Volvagia
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Do A&M and Mizzori give us more money through the markets they open up than we lose by now having to split the pot 15 ways
Open up 3 pretty big markets. Houston, Kansas
City and St. Louis.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:02 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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Everyone else in the SEC is losing quite a bit and will be pretty young.
AU is going to be loaded. Losing no one and may sign a 3rd straight top 5 class this year.
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