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Cam Newton and the Heisman Trophy.. The Barn continues to burn
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:40 pm
$CAM NEWTON REGARDING THE HEISMAN TROPHY
From the SEC Constitution
14.01.3.2 Financial Aid.
If at any time before or after matriculation in a member institution a student-athlete or any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference (except such aid or assistance as such student-athlete may receive from those persons on whom the student is naturally or legally dependent for support), such student-athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.
Answer these three questions.
Lets start with an easy one, Is Cecil Newton the father of Cam Newton? Yes
Second, if you ask to receive money are you agreeing to receive the money? Yes
Third, Did Cecil Newton ask Mississippi State? Yes
If you don’t think this is true consider this excerpt and statement from Mississippi State
Bell said he told the NCAA that Rogers sent him a text message outlining a payment schedule, says ESPN.com Bell said the text included a request for $80,000 the day after Cam Newton signed his letter-of-intent with Mississippi State, $50,000 after 30 days after that and another $50,000 30 days later.
"When he asked for it, it was like, 'Bam!' " Bell told ESPN.com. "He told me this kid's dad is going to want money and the next day he sent me a text message. He didn't say anything other than, 'This is what I want and I want it in three installments.' "
"[Cecil Newton] didn't come out and say, 'I want $180,000,' " Bell said. "He inferred it and talked about it, but not directly. Kenny would talk about it in front of him, and [Cecil Newton] never corrected him or said, 'No, that's not what we're doing.' "
-Mississippi State athletic director Scott Stricklin acknowledged in a statement that the school "was approached with an offer to provide an extra benefit" and that the school refused.
Bottom line, Cecil Newton “agree[d] to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference… such student-athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.”
Therefore, he is ineligible to play in the SEC. Now how does this affect his NCAA eligibility?
Read this Bylaw
14.01.3 Compliance with Other NCAA and Conference Legislation.
To be eligible to represent an institution in intercollegiate athletics competition, a student-athlete shall be in compliance with all applicable provisions of the constitution and bylaws of the Association and all rules and regulations of the institution and the conference(s), if any, of which the institution is a member. A violation of this bylaw that relates only to a violation of a conference rule shall be considered an institutional violation per Constitution 2.8.1; however, such a violation shall not affect the student-athlete’s eligibility. Specific attention is called to legislation affecting eligibility in the following areas. (Revised: 10/27/06)
It is clear that it isn’t only a violation of a conferene rule. I couldn’t find the rule, the rulebook is 400+ pages, but according to a NCAA spokeswoman, "the solicitation of cash or benefits by a prospective student-athlete or another individual on his or her behalf is not allowed under NCAA rules."
What does this mean?
1) Cam Newton is INELIGIBLE in regards to the NCAA because he is in violation with the SEC rules.
2) Cam Newton cannot receive the Heisman trophy for two reasons
1) Heisman.com “The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity”
It is clear that there has been a lack in integrity shown in this case.
2) Now, here is the more important one. The ballots state that "In order that there will be no misunderstanding regarding the eligibility of a candidate, the recipient of the award MUST be a bona fide student of an accredited college or university including the United States Academies. The recipients must be in compliance with the bylaws defining an NCAA student athlete."
Because of this, Cam Newton cannot be considered for the Heisman Trophy. I will admit, he has been the most dominant player this year in college football, and its not even close, but the fact that he is INELGIBLE in regards to both the NCAA and SEC should make him INELIGIBLE to receive the award. Even if he does win in, it will get taken away, along with all of Auburn’s victories this past year.
From the SEC Constitution
14.01.3.2 Financial Aid.
If at any time before or after matriculation in a member institution a student-athlete or any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference (except such aid or assistance as such student-athlete may receive from those persons on whom the student is naturally or legally dependent for support), such student-athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.
Answer these three questions.
Lets start with an easy one, Is Cecil Newton the father of Cam Newton? Yes
Second, if you ask to receive money are you agreeing to receive the money? Yes
Third, Did Cecil Newton ask Mississippi State? Yes
If you don’t think this is true consider this excerpt and statement from Mississippi State
Bell said he told the NCAA that Rogers sent him a text message outlining a payment schedule, says ESPN.com Bell said the text included a request for $80,000 the day after Cam Newton signed his letter-of-intent with Mississippi State, $50,000 after 30 days after that and another $50,000 30 days later.
"When he asked for it, it was like, 'Bam!' " Bell told ESPN.com. "He told me this kid's dad is going to want money and the next day he sent me a text message. He didn't say anything other than, 'This is what I want and I want it in three installments.' "
"[Cecil Newton] didn't come out and say, 'I want $180,000,' " Bell said. "He inferred it and talked about it, but not directly. Kenny would talk about it in front of him, and [Cecil Newton] never corrected him or said, 'No, that's not what we're doing.' "
-Mississippi State athletic director Scott Stricklin acknowledged in a statement that the school "was approached with an offer to provide an extra benefit" and that the school refused.
Bottom line, Cecil Newton “agree[d] to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference… such student-athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.”
Therefore, he is ineligible to play in the SEC. Now how does this affect his NCAA eligibility?
Read this Bylaw
14.01.3 Compliance with Other NCAA and Conference Legislation.
To be eligible to represent an institution in intercollegiate athletics competition, a student-athlete shall be in compliance with all applicable provisions of the constitution and bylaws of the Association and all rules and regulations of the institution and the conference(s), if any, of which the institution is a member. A violation of this bylaw that relates only to a violation of a conference rule shall be considered an institutional violation per Constitution 2.8.1; however, such a violation shall not affect the student-athlete’s eligibility. Specific attention is called to legislation affecting eligibility in the following areas. (Revised: 10/27/06)
It is clear that it isn’t only a violation of a conferene rule. I couldn’t find the rule, the rulebook is 400+ pages, but according to a NCAA spokeswoman, "the solicitation of cash or benefits by a prospective student-athlete or another individual on his or her behalf is not allowed under NCAA rules."
What does this mean?
1) Cam Newton is INELIGIBLE in regards to the NCAA because he is in violation with the SEC rules.
2) Cam Newton cannot receive the Heisman trophy for two reasons
1) Heisman.com “The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity”
It is clear that there has been a lack in integrity shown in this case.
2) Now, here is the more important one. The ballots state that "In order that there will be no misunderstanding regarding the eligibility of a candidate, the recipient of the award MUST be a bona fide student of an accredited college or university including the United States Academies. The recipients must be in compliance with the bylaws defining an NCAA student athlete."
Because of this, Cam Newton cannot be considered for the Heisman Trophy. I will admit, he has been the most dominant player this year in college football, and its not even close, but the fact that he is INELGIBLE in regards to both the NCAA and SEC should make him INELIGIBLE to receive the award. Even if he does win in, it will get taken away, along with all of Auburn’s victories this past year.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:44 pm to Dawgs1980
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Bell said. "He inferred it and talked about it [Cecil Newton] didn't come out and say, 'I want $180,000,' " Bell said. "He inferred it and talked about it, but not directly.
This post was edited on 11/28/10 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:45 pm to Dawgs1980
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Dawgs1980
I am just going to be straight with you since you are new but all of this info is about a month old. Everyone has been saying this, only the FBI and NCAA can make it happen.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:45 pm to Dawgs1980
GTFO retard. Seriously.
And I can promise you, not more than 5 people on this board will read that long diatribe in its entirety.
I stopped after reading the rule you quoted which has already been covered weeks ago.
Now, STFU until something new comes out or something ANYTHING is proven. Hell, even alleged by the NCAA or SEC.
And I can promise you, not more than 5 people on this board will read that long diatribe in its entirety.
I stopped after reading the rule you quoted which has already been covered weeks ago.
Now, STFU until something new comes out or something ANYTHING is proven. Hell, even alleged by the NCAA or SEC.
This post was edited on 11/28/10 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:46 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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And I can promise you, not more than 5 people on this board will read that long diatribe.
for true.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:46 pm to Marines4Auburn
Awesome post man. I just learned so much new info by reading that. Please keep posting! 
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:48 pm to auburnu008
You have 9 posts and everyone of them quote by laws and other shite about Auburn. I guess you will fit in well around here. 
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:48 pm to auburnu008
Whats so bad about all this, is that it's not "news", and the guy is still playing.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:49 pm to Dawgs1980
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:55 pm to villager
The post was intended more to do with the Heisman Trophy than Auburn vacating their wins this year.
And unless Bill Bell, Kenny Rogers, John Bond, and the Miss. State AD are all liars, it's just a matter of time, but until then be in denial.
Can one Auburn fan stand up and say that they know that they are in deep shite and admit that they just want to win the MNC and worry about the consequences after the season is over with?
And unless Bill Bell, Kenny Rogers, John Bond, and the Miss. State AD are all liars, it's just a matter of time, but until then be in denial.
Can one Auburn fan stand up and say that they know that they are in deep shite and admit that they just want to win the MNC and worry about the consequences after the season is over with?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:57 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Now, STFU until something new comes out or something ANYTHING is proven. Hell, even alleged by the NCAA or SEC.
You should STFU until the Newtons are exonerated. In other words, don't ever speak again.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:57 pm to CamdenTiger
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Whats so bad about all this, is that it's not "news", and the guy is still playing.
The fact that Auburn is still playing him, it shows the lack of institutional control, and don't worry about, they will suffer, and they will suffer badly.
This post was edited on 11/28/10 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:59 pm to Dawgs1980
god damnit....you HAVE to be a bama fan, otherwise the UGAy fan base has hit the shitter
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