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Mike Leach tried to warn us about committees

Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:24 am
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:24 am
Posted by YieldDawg
USA
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206 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:29 am to
Still can’t believe he’s gone
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
74943 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:31 am to
The BCS system needs to come back and decide the playoff rankings. The “committee” only came along because the little schools bitched and moaned about the computers ranking them appropriately below the bigger schools
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5626 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:31 am to
As long as there some set up of committees, polls, votes, or any kind of qualifying requiremnt that isnt clearly decided by the rules of on-field competition and game results, college football is not a sport, it's a pageant.

Now everyone smile and waive to the committee and wiggle your tits as much as you can while you walk. Gotta pass that 'eye test!'
Posted by FAT SEXY
California
Member since Jun 2020
1195 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:31 am to
Leach was a baw

His best attribute was not just seeing through the bullshite, but calling it out nonchalantly in a humorous manner.

He 'cut through the cheese' on every topic
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 11:33 am
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
3604 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:32 am to
Now do Congress.....

Which is the opposite of progress
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2731 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:34 am to
And yet, somehow we manage to get by with committees selecting the at large spots for the field in every other sport. I think that you have to consider the context that, at the time Leach went on this rant, they were only selecting four teams, so his complaint that it wasn't being settled on the field was a lot more valid then, than it is now, when the field includes 12 teams (hard to argue that anyone outside the top 10 really deserves a chance to play for the championship).
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
10752 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:36 am to
Agreed. Have the BCS choose the best 12 teams. Don’t care about conference, autobids, or G5.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9149 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:42 am to
I am ok with committees but you need to focus on people that really understand football and also have the least amount of conflict of interests.

I would get retired NFL coaches or maybe GMs for instance. I'd trust Tony Dungy, Bill Parcells, Jon Gruden, Bill Cowher, etc. They all know ball and don't really have a dog in the fight and are the most likely to be objective. All humans are flawed and the humans that write a program for a Playoff are flawed too.

Of course this isn't about finding the best system or being fair, it's about money and all of this shite is for show. Fortunately being in the SEC we are on the right side of that equation.
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
1495 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:05 pm to
Find that guy who placed his Super Bowl bets based on a pet chicken walking around and pooping on a board with appropriate logos on it and let the bird have a vote.
Posted by Boomer65
Norman
Member since Sep 2022
957 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:09 pm to
Why is CFP Committee still a thing anyway?
Posted by Boomer65
Norman
Member since Sep 2022
957 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Agreed. Have the BCS choose the best 12 teams. Don’t care about conference, autobids, or G5.


Too logical for ESPN/FOX.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48125 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:11 pm to
Ah the old seeding is unfavorable to my team argument. I knew this day would come.

I can't wait for it to go to 16, and then 24 teams.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26666 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:13 pm to
I like boobs...so yes please.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99895 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:51 pm to
I miss that man
Posted by paperwasp
2x HRV 2025 Poster of the Year
Member since Sep 2014
28778 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

I miss that man

Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58281 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 2:36 pm to
that rant is incredible and spot the frick on.

We didn't deserve Leach.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
12695 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 2:36 pm to

"Alabama hired Bill Curry instead of Bobby Bowden? Perfect example of a committee." - Beano Cook
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20309 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 2:47 pm to
People hated the BCS when it decided 1 vs.2 but it is actually a good way to decide 12/16 whatever we land on.

Part 1: The Human Element

Coaches Poll - voted on by coaches
Harris Interactive Poll - voted on by media

Point totals were divided by a perfect score and multiplied by 0.33

Part 2: The Computer Polls

Six established computer polls - the highest and lowest rankings were dropped. The point values (25 for 1st, 24 for 2nd, etc.) were added together for the four remaining and divided by 100. That number was multiplied bu 0.33 as well.

This is what it would spit out right now:



End result compared to committee vote

This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 2:49 pm
Posted by paperwasp
2x HRV 2025 Poster of the Year
Member since Sep 2014
28778 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

People hated the BCS

I honestly think they shot themselves in the foot when they wouldn't reveal the exact algorithm, and back then more (uneducated) people had a general distrust of "computers."

If they had opened it up, made the entire process transparent, and maybe even considered swapping around models as the algorithm improved, we'd probably still be using it.
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