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I just got a chance to read the actual BK lawsuit against LSU.,..

Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:38 pm
And I do believe LSU should move heaven and earth to settle quickly or they could be on the hook for far more. And drawn out litigation WILL affect who looks at the opening,.

I knew Walsh and Metzinger from Stone Pigman were on the case but co-counsel is who should scare LSU. Robert Fumerton is a legit rockstar in complex litigation. I am not sure how they retained him because he usually handles cases in the billions for Skadden. These guys will ensure that LSU spends several millions dollars if they fight this instead of settling.

Another thing I cannot fathom is why John Carmouche was handling this directly. They should have used other counsel more familiar with contractual issues. More serious is that he was wearing two hats. He should have had other counsel handling the negotiation with the other parties.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:40 pm to
BK has receipts.

Posted by truth22
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:50 pm to
In a contractual dispute with issues over black and white terms, and some he-said/she-said that is likely backed up by witnesses and recordings, I don't see this being a multi-million dollar legal fee thing (other than a contingency award).

On second thought, that COULD go in the millions depending on the hourly fee.

Parties are probably best to mediate this quickly unless they really believe they have a slam dunk case. I wonder what the fee arrangement was with Kelly and his attorneys.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:52 pm to
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No school has ever won a “termination for cause” lawsuit - even when they could allege grounds with a straight face. Thus, it seems unlikely that LSU could set a new precedent when everyone in college sports is laughing at them for taking a position that’s absolutely absurd.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:54 pm to
[quote]LSU could set a new precedent when everyone in college sports is laughing at them for taking a position that’s absolutely absurd[/quote]

So like, any day ending in Y on tRant?

Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
1066 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:55 pm to
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n a contractual dispute with issues over black and white terms, and some he-said/she-said that is likely backed up by witnesses and recordings, I don't see this being a multi-million dollar legal fee thing (other than a contingency award).

On second thought, that COULD go in the millions depending on the hourly fee.

Parties are probably best to mediate this quickly unless they really believe they have a slam dunk case. I wonder what the fee arrangement was with Kelly and his attorneys.


LSU should suck it up and write the checks. There is ego behind the LSU actions that needs to be checked.

And firms like Skadden have tons of folks to write tons of motions that LSU will have to pay retained counsel to answer.
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1288 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:56 pm to
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Parties are probably best to mediate this quickly


Don't know, but Kelly appear to be the type of person that hold grudges like a pit bull.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19808 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:57 pm to
I don't understand what LSU was even trying to do here?

Was it the Auburn threaten the guy to expose his affair and poison future openings?

Thats foolish in that it reduces the odds he gets another job which would reduce their overall exposure and payout.

Its also a cycle where they were trying to hire a known mass philanderer from Ole Miss so by taking this approach why would he ever assume they wouldn't do the same thing to him in the future?

Just a horribly managed, ill-conceived process all around from them.

Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
74532 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:58 pm to
Oh if Tom Mars is representing Kelly then LSU is EXTRA fricked
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:00 pm to
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Was it the Auburn threaten the guy to expose his affair and poison future openings?
To Auburn’s credit, they actually did an investigation and decided to not fire Harsin even though they really wanted to. LSU just said “frick it. Fire him and make something up after the fact”.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:01 pm to
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Don't know, but Kelly appear to be the type of person that hold grudges like a pit bull.
Don't frick with Kelly's fam-uh-lee.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
15447 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Oh if Tom Mars is representing Kelly then LSU is EXTRA fricked


I don't think he is, he's just providing his opinion on the info coming out:

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LSU. IS. COOKED.

This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 2:06 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19808 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:05 pm to
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To Auburn’s credit, they actually did an investigation and decided to not fire Harsin even though they really wanted to.

I don't give Auburn any credit for that. In fact they deserve to be judged for it for decades.

Its not even clear the guy was having an affair and instead of just firing him and moving on they pushed the story to every friendly news outlet in the state when he didn't resign to try to force his hand.

When Bama fired Price for chasing strippers in Destin they didn't run it through the news first, they just fired him.

Same went for Dubose who had his own issues with philandering.

It was one of the slimiest things I've ever seen in college football and it was done from the highest levels of the school.
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:07 pm to
LSU will be very smart to suck it up and privately see if they can get a better deal with a lump sum.

All this media stuff is poisoning the environment, making the LSU job much less attractive, and running up the legal cost meter.

LSU keeps up with this and they may very well end up with a very high level libel lawsuit on their hands. BK is a high dollar CFB Coach and his reputation is a very valuable asset and LSU will be smart to lay off with the personal reputation "for cause" stuff.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
74532 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:08 pm to
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It was one of the slimiest things I've ever seen in college football and it was done from the highest levels of the school.
I don’t think the school itself had anything to do with the affair story getting out. I think it was a few rogue boosters and when it got out, the AD (even though he wanted Harsin gone too) had to reign people in and say “we aren’t firing people without any evidence. We have to do an investigation”.

The boosters caused that issue, not Auburn as an institution.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3608 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:09 pm to
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LSU should suck it up and write the checks.


Maybe they could mix it up with their water bill check, could buy them a couple of extra weeks
Posted by Daowna
Member since Dec 2010
1604 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:20 pm to
I am admittedly starting to question whether LSU fans knew what they were saying when they claimed to be savvy businessmen who don't accept mediocrity.

Right now a mediocre approach to their coaching change would far exceed the current mark set by the LSU administration in all of this.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5807 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:33 pm to
But but Matt Moscona says LSU has dirt on BK for 3 different instances...2 personal and 1 professional.

Surely a glorified messageboard poster with a microphone and tens of people watching his livestreams where he does Christmas light ads knows more than legal experts that has experience in the field.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19808 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:58 pm to
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I don’t think the school itself had anything to do with the affair story getting out.

Unless you want to acknowledge that a few boosters run the AD there and that the administrators are basically just middle managers I don't agree.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16607 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:12 pm to
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when everyone in college sports is laughing at them for taking a position that’s absolutely absurd.


Damn
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