What are we doing, seriously?????

We will debate hypothetically coaches on here for the next few months. I don't think we fire Freeze, and he gets another year. People don't realize how much our Admins love Freeze.

I think you are correct.

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We will debate hypothetically coaches on here for the next few months. I don't think we fire Freeze, and he gets another year. People don't realize how much our Admins love Freeze.

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Freeze is finished man. The admin knows it.

I’m hearing the PTB don’t want to pay the buyout so we riding with Hugh.

The football program made $200 million last year. We don't need boosters to pay a $15 million buyout.

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Hope you're right, but I was told this offseason by someone who would know that there was virtually no chance he would be gone if we went above .500 which is still in play. He was telling me this in context of Hugh having unwavering trust of some very prominent people in the admin/booster community.

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None of this shite matters once the rubber actually meets the road. "Unwavering trust" was based off of Freeze's own admission that this needed to be an 8+ win season as a base-line which is what he was trumpeting at SEC media days. He doesn't get to walk back off of that as if nobody is going to remember what his own expectations were. And the part that should be obvious: the fans are already done with him, and now the financial implications and name-brand turmoil are about to start materializing. Once that starts rearing its head, it doesn't matter who does or doesn't like him.

"Unwavering trust" itself is a complete misnomer. If he had unwavering trust, then that would imply that he will never get fired period. But yet in college football a coach can go from "unwavering trust" to unemployed in the matter of 3-4 weeks. Mike Norvell was back to unwavering trust after the Week 1 upset of Alabama.

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What are we doing, seriously?????

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Optimistically, hypothetically…

The PTB have already decided to fire Hew. They are in talks with several to replace him. The ones they are talking to have a strong interest in keeping the talks secret. The PTB understand the December timeline and the portal.

This job search isn't like ours. The PTB doesn't need to post that the job is available to get interested candidates. In fact, the AD is/should be talking to the major coaches agents at least once a quarter anyway. That's how you have a real back-up plan. The real money guys run billion dollar/hundred million dollar companies. They should know how to do this.

All publicly firing Hew does right now is draw additional attention to the process. Unless there's some contractual/buy-out issue they are trying to satisfy to get the best economic outcome or it was Saban coming out of retirement to coach the Tigers to a winning season, there’s literally nothing to gain by publicly announcing that they’ve fired him.

But it’s not Saban, and Durkin is not getting a shot, and they don’t have to publicly tell anyone that Hew is fired to be negotiating with candidates as his replacement and meet a December hiring deadline.

That’s a perfect world. And I know nothing. But I hope it’s true.

Again, hope you're right, but some people (like Freeze) can play the political game better than others and 7-8 years of topsy turvy football with more massive buyouts executed than wins over Georgia and Bama combined can make folks hesitant fork over the funds for another buyout.

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Again, hope you're right, but some people (like Freeze) can play the political game better than others and 7-8 years of topsy turvy football with more massive buyouts executed than wins over Georgia and Bama combined can make folks hesitant fork over the funds for another buyout.

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Auburn has never kept a coach past year 3 that is failing as badly as Freeze is failing. I think the talk about him being Machiavelli and able to talk his way out of anything is a bit exaggerated. This is also an absurdly expensive roster that we are fielding, which means that Freeze is actually losing some people a LOT of money based off of what it took to assemble this losing roster.

The fact that the Athletic Department has been dead-silent since the loss to Missouri does not in any way suggest that Hugh is safe or has support. They have gone into bunker mode. No public statements of support were made. This is typically what happens once the wheels behind the scenes start turning for a major change.