OU win total (MGM) at 6.5

Auto wins against Illinois State, Temple and Kent State.

Then they have to just go 4-5 against the rest of:

vs Michigan
vs Auburn
vs Texas
at SC
vs Ole Miss
at TN
at Alabama
vs Mizzou
vs LSU

Seems doable.

They will beat Michigan and I’m not sure why you think Bama and Tennessee are losses for them. Neither of those teams are anything special

Their biggest issue is overcoming the stigma of losing to missouri who was playing a 3rd string QB that game.

I think Vegas is looking at the facts that Oklahoma lost an All-American caliber linebacker, doesn't have any projected All-Americans on defense, and didn't recruit extremely well on the defensive side of the ball this past cycle as an indication that their defense is going to take a major step back. Note that their defense was the only thing that kept them relevant last year and that their 2025 schedule has a lot of good/great offensive teams. Unless Oklahoma's offense is great/elite, they'll likely finish the season 6-6 or 7-5 like Vegas is predicting

I can’t imagine how pissed OU fans must be when they look at their intro to the SEC schedules compared to what Texas was gifted.

Crazy.

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I can’t imagine how pissed OU fans must be when they look at their intro to the SEC schedules compared to what Texas was gifted.

Crazy.

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Criminal. We are also fully aware that when we go to 9 games/pod or whatever, Texas will get Vandy or Ken as a perm rotation.

Kirby Smart concurs with them.

This is the only futures win total bet I've made so far, even though it was like -185. Offensive line is the only question.

Also fwiw Google Gemini quickly is becoming a great tool for researching futures win total bets...

What are the arguments for and against the Oklahoma football team winning at least 7 games in the 2025 season?

The Oklahoma Sooners enter the 2025 season with a lot of pressure and significant changes, as they navigate their second year in the SEC under head coach Brent Venables. After a disappointing 6-7 record in 2024, there are strong arguments both for and against their ability to improve and achieve a winning record.

Arguments for Oklahoma having a winning record (7+ wins):
Quarterback Upgrade and Offensive Revamp: The Sooners made a major move in the transfer portal by bringing in John Mateer from Washington State. Mateer led a high-powered offense that averaged 37 points per game. This is a critical upgrade after last season's struggles at quarterback (Jackson Arnold didn't quite work out). Oklahoma also hired a new offensive coordinator, Ben Arbuckle, who is expected to bring a fresh approach.

Talented Running Back Room: Cal transfer Jaydn Ott is a significant addition to the running back corps. He rushed for over 1,300 yards in 2023 (before an injury-hampered 2024) and is an explosive playmaker. Combined with returning backs like Jovantae Barnes and Xavier Robinson, Oklahoma should have a much-improved rushing attack, which is crucial for SEC play.
Loaded Defense (Especially Defensive Line): Despite last year's record, Oklahoma's defense was often a bright spot, particularly against the run (24th nationally). They return key players on the defensive line, including R Mason Thomas (projected first-round pick in 2026), Gracen Halton, and Jayden Jackson. The return of David Stone, a highly touted defensive tackle who briefly entered the portal, is a huge win for the Sooners. This defensive front should be one of the best in the SEC.
Returning Linebacker Talent: While the loss of Danny Stutsman is big, Kip Lewis returns after totaling 65 tackles and two crucial pick-sixes last season. The linebacking corps, coupled with a strong defensive line, should remain a strength.
Depth from Last Year's Injuries: While injuries plagued Oklahoma in 2024, particularly at wide receiver, this has created an "almost unfair level of depth" in the current roster. Many players gained valuable experience, which could pay dividends in 2025.
Coaching Changes and Urgency: Brent Venables is entering a pivotal year, with his seat reportedly "hot." This level of urgency, combined with the new offensive coordinator, could lead to a more focused and effective team. Venables is also taking over defensive play-calling, hoping to replicate the success he had at Clemson.

Arguments against Oklahoma having a winning record (7+ wins):
Brutal SEC Schedule: Oklahoma's schedule is one of the toughest in the nation. They face Michigan in a non-conference game and have SEC matchups against Texas, Alabama, LSU, and Tennessee, among others. Navigating this gauntlet, especially after a losing record, will be incredibly challenging.
Offensive Line Rebuilding: While the offense is expected to improve, the offensive line needs to show significant strides. They were a weak point last season, and while they've brought in some transfers (like Jake Maikkula), the unit still needs to gel and protect the new quarterback.
Wide Receiver Turnover (Despite Transfers): Oklahoma lost key receivers like Jaquaize Pettaway, Nic Anderson, and Jalil Farooq to the transfer portal. While they've brought in transfers like Jer'Michael Carter, the chemistry and big-play ability need to be re-established.
Brent Venables' Track Record: Despite his defensive prowess, Venables has a 6-7 record in two of his first three seasons as head coach. While injuries were a factor, he needs to prove he can lead a team to consistent wins in the SEC. The pressure is immense.
Adjusting to the SEC: While they've had a year in the SEC, the learning curve is steep. The physicality, depth of talent, and consistent competition in the SEC are different from the Big 12, and Oklahoma still needs to fully adapt.
Limited Explosive Plays Last Season: Oklahoma struggled to generate big plays on offense in 2024. While Ott's addition should help the run game, the overall explosiveness needs to improve significantly to keep pace with high-powered SEC offenses.
Overall Outlook:

Oklahoma has made some significant moves to address their weaknesses, particularly on offense. The addition of John Mateer at quarterback and Jaydn Ott at running back, coupled with a strong defensive front, provides a solid foundation. However, the move to the SEC is no joke, and their schedule is incredibly difficult. For Oklahoma to reach 7 or more wins, they will need John Mateer to quickly adapt to the SEC, the offensive line to solidify, and the defense to continue its strong play and create more turnovers. If they can stay healthy and get some favorable bounces, a winning record is certainly within reach, but it will be a hard-fought battle every week.

Mizzou and Oklahoma will be playing on November 22nd for a trip to Atlanta. Book it.

Yeah but that 3rd string QB didn't cause a late game fumble returned for a TD which was the pivotal play leading to Missouri's win.

Both offenses struggled with the tigers holding onto a 10-9 lead until that wild 4th quarter when both teams scored a defensive TD.