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Which “UT” coach was better? Phil Fulmer or Mack Brown?

Posted on 7/6/25 at 9:44 pm
Posted by MizzouTrue
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 7/6/25 at 9:44 pm
Both won a national championship, ending long title droughts. Both lost national championship games to dynasties (Fulmer in 1997 to Nebraska and Brown in 2009 to Alabama)

Both lost painful conference championship games with BCS title game implications (2001).

Both won 2 conference titles. The Big12 wasn’t a joke when Mack Brown was coaching

Who was better?
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26492 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 9:47 pm to
Decent question. All I know is Phil was fatter and kind of a bltch.
Posted by 24nights
North of I10
Member since Apr 2012
5229 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 9:47 pm to
Never really thought about it tbh, why is mizzou in the SEC again?
Posted by Rrrrroger
Member since Mar 2021
905 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 9:56 pm to
Both Tennessee natives
Posted by MizzouTrue
Member since Jun 2016
4775 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 9:57 pm to
Both very good recruiters
Posted by SPAGHETTI PLATE
Montgomery, Texas
Member since Jan 2025
1119 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:01 pm to
Mack Brown is one of the better men that has coached CFB. It was hard to hate him back in the day.
This post was edited on 7/6/25 at 10:05 pm
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
6587 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:03 pm to
They also both had issues with a rival in big games, each losing five straight to either Florida or Oklahoma. Almost all of those games were top ten matchups. As to the question, I’ll lean toward Mack because of what he did during his first stint at UNC.
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
964 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:27 pm to
I’m gonna say Fulmer. He had to play against better competition than Mack Brown. While at Tennessee, Fulmer went against Saban, Spurrier, Richt, Stallings, Holtz, Tuberville, Miles, and Urban all in conference. That’s a lot harder than anything Texas went against. Also coaching Texas is way easier than coaching Tennessee from a resources and in state recruiting point of view. I’m biased but I think it’s fulmer easily
This post was edited on 7/6/25 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Eldodroptop
Member since Jul 2021
3004 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

It was hard to hate him back in the day.


Yes, it was hard to hate MB. But the last couple of years of his tenure we certainly pulled it off…
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3982 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:35 pm to
Mack Brown. He turned around three programs. Tulane went from 1 win in 1985 to 6 wins in 1987. He did a great job at both UNC (first stint) and Texas.
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
2051 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:37 pm to
Bob stoops owned Mac Brown. He won one title in 16 years of coaching at Texas. He was a good coach at a program that had no reason being mediocre. He had a lot of 10 win seasons in an average conference. Phil was a pain in Bamas arse. Tennessee was at their best with him at the helm. I’d give Phil the nod
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35484 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

Both won a national championship, ending long title droughts. Both lost national championship games to dynasties (Fulmer in 1997 to Nebraska and Brown in 2009 to Alabama)

Both lost painful conference championship games with BCS title game implications (2001).

Both won 2 conference titles. The Big12 wasn’t a joke when Mack Brown was coaching

Who was better?


Pound for pound, Mack Brown.

Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
6587 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

Bob stoops owned Mac Brown

He did from 00-04, but overall in their 15 meetings against each other, Stoops was 9-6.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
19906 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:57 pm to
Mack Brown mostly because Fulmer was a gigantic douche
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
3547 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:02 pm to
Fulmer pays people wit MackDonalds bags full of cash. He’s the true mustard tiger. Brown can’t compete with that
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
2051 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:20 pm to
That’s pretty bad. You play 15 times and you lose almost 70% of the games to your rival. That gets most coaches fired
Posted by Lucas Ryan
Magic City
Member since Jul 2025
74 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:00 am to
quote:

While at Tennessee, Fulmer went against Saban


That's a pretty big leap to say he "coached" against Saban. Fulmer looked like a fool and got his doughnuts bashed in for a brief 2 years, vs. Saban, and then was fired.

Let's not color it orange and try to make it seem as if Fulmer was in some long, existential struggle against Saban in which many brave battles were fought.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 1:57 am
Posted by LSUtigerNVegas
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2024
572 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:31 am to
That would be Les Miles.
Posted by Lucas Ryan
Magic City
Member since Jul 2025
74 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:06 am to
quote:

That would be Les Miles.


Sure, it was very much a battle in the beginning between Miles and Saban. From '12-'16, Saban finally got the upper hand and won 5 straight.

'07-'11 though, Miles had Saban with a 3-2 margin.

It was great competition.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 2:07 am
Posted by Wishbone85
Member since Nov 2024
1639 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:46 am to
Mack Brown lost to OU 63-14 then followed it up with another loss to OU 65-13.. I know Fulmer had his Florida problem and Payton Manning never beat them but he wasn't getting beat badly like that.
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