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Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:00 am
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7454 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:00 am
A member of SECRANT asked others for an up or down vote on mRNA. Members responded--380 downvotes and 14 up votes have been recorded to date. The public understands how dangerous mRNA is to health.

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This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 9:03 am
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14010 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:12 am to
Whose to say, I guess it all depends on herd immunity vs the vax. COVID quickly disappeared after the vax. I know it has popped back up but nothing like it was. Even when I got mine I started with the mDNA traditional vax.

I think everyone should make their own decision, as they have to live with the results.

That said, I have discontinued the vax as someone who had as severe a case as you could have, brink of respirator (which basically was a death sentence).
Don't think anyone should have been forced.

I think what Fauci did may rise to a crime against Humanity..... Creating a Holocaust so I don't think a Presidential pardon works at the Hag. All comes down to circumventing a ban on GOF research and the SOB lying to our houses of Congress and people.

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Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19067 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:48 am to
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Fauci


Give him to Russia
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
5616 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:23 am to
Ask anyone who was working in an ICU back in 2021 whether or not the first vaccine was worth it. ...I think that the booster shots and second and third generation COVID shots were a money grab, but the first one came in handy when needed most and presumably saved a lot of lives.

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/vast-majority-icu-patients-covid-19-unvaccinated-abc/story?id=79128401

ABC News contacted 50 hospitals in 17 states, and asked them to share data on their ICU wards' current COVID-19 patients, including their vaccination status. In the surveyed hospitals, ABC News found that the overwhelming majority of COVID-19 patients currently being treated in ICUs were unvaccinated.

Of the 271 total COVID patients in the surveyed ICUs, 255 patients, or approximately 94%, were unvaccinated against COVID-19 in ABC News' snapshot in time.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
47950 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:37 am to
Equating the opinion of the Poli Board echo chamber to the view of the general public is certainly a take.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:40 am to
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The public understands how dangerous mRNA is to health.


Not necessarily. The public generally listens to those that scream the loudest. As an older person with chronic illnesses I have gotten the original two shots and all boosters. At 78, I have never had Covid and hope to never have it. It would probably kill me.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16780 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:42 am to
It’s easy to look back with a critical eye with what we know now but I got the vax when it first came out. I know two families that lost an older parent when one of the kids inadvertently gave them COVID. The reality is nobody knew how they or their older family members would handle it if they got sick. My parents and FIL were in their mid 70’s so I wasn’t taking that chance.

That said, we never had our two teenage boys get the vax. No need…they’ve each had COVID twice and it was a fever for a day. My wife was really sick with it early on and had had it again since then.

I’ve been around it multiple times over the years - even a few months ago - and never got it. If I had it to do over I’d have never gotten it but back then it was a different time.
Posted by TrackDawg
Sugar Hill
Member since Sep 2013
986 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:04 am to
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ABC News contacted 50 hospitals in 17 states, and asked them to share data on their ICU wards' current COVID-19 patients, including their vaccination status. In the surveyed hospitals, ABC News found that the overwhelming majority of COVID-19 patients currently being treated in ICUs were unvaccinated.

Of the 271 total COVID patients in the surveyed ICUs, 255 patients, or approximately 94%, were unvaccinated against COVID-19 in ABC News' snapshot in time.


This is complete horseshite. The survey required the patients to be current on all of their vaccinations (not a vaccination) including a booster. Notice the article states "Fully vaccinated". The survey was performed before the booster was widely available. Typical media BS.

Read "The real Anthony Facui" It's amazing the lies he told and how many people he has killed over the years.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 11:09 am
Posted by TrackDawg
Sugar Hill
Member since Sep 2013
986 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:07 am to
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I have never had Covid and hope to never have it. It would probably kill me.


You most likely had it, you were just asymptomatic.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 11:09 am
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3828 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:21 am to
The gene therapy field is still in its infancy but it has a lot of promise for treating many different kinds of disease. Every drug has side effects, which is why they need to be thoroughly studied. I'm not in favor of forcing people to take any medication, ever. I'm also not in favor of prohibiting drugs or classes of drugs because they can be "dangerous"; all of them are dangerous if used improperly. The risk vs reward has to be assessed on a case by case basis.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 11:23 am
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
5616 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:23 am to
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This is complete horseshite. The survey required the patients to be current on all of their vaccinations (not a vaccination) including a booster. Notice the article states "Fully vaccinated". The survey was performed before the booster was widely available. Typical media BS.



The article is from July 2021. The booster shots weren't authorized and rolled out until late September 2021, according to a very quick Google search.
Posted by MacDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2015
396 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:41 am to
mRNA might be helpful and useful in future applications. I don't think that was really ever the issue. The issue was that they fast tracked a "vaccine" (it isn't really a vaccine) without proper testing. They will say that was necessary. But the vehicle used in the vaccine is the Spike Protien which has been proven to cause inflammation and damage to cells including to the heart muscle. So you're introducing something to the body that causes damage with hopes of preventing a COVID infection.

This is probably why there were so many adverse reactions including myocarditis.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44737 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:00 pm to
Similar to reading an Alex Jones’ comments section
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
5616 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:02 pm to
Fair enough!
Posted by TrackDawg
Sugar Hill
Member since Sep 2013
986 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:38 pm to
Now I need to go back and review what the study said. I recall the book didn't like the wording of the questions, the vaccine release date, and the unlikelihood of a significant number of people could meet that criteria within the alloted timeframe. Unfortunately, I am one of those misinformation people. My bad, I scan through the book.
Posted by PNW
Nevada
Member since Mar 2014
6338 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:39 pm to
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COVID quickly disappeared after the vax


Could you explain this? It didn’t “disappear” just like the flu hasn’t disappeared since it started in the 16th century.
Posted by TrackDawg
Sugar Hill
Member since Sep 2013
986 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:04 pm to
COVID did not quickly disappear because of the vaccine rollout. The roll out was was in December 2020 and the deaths dropped in Mid December. The vaccine takes about 14 to 60 days to provide protection according to the CDC. By February, only 8% of Americans had received the vaccine, and by April only 31%. It's important to note that not all individuals were considered "fully vaccinated" ( second shot if required) at that time, and they still faced the 14-day wait before the vaccine would offer protection. The drop in the infection rate was due to herd immunity.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 1:06 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70171 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:14 pm to
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COVID quickly disappeared after the vax


Could you explain this? It didn’t “disappear” just like the flu hasn’t disappeared since it started in the 16th century.


It quickly disappeared because Biden took office and we no longer needed people in panic mode.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14010 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:38 pm to
Agree to disagree.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70136 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:39 pm to
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