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TV ratings for CFP in the toilet

Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:32 am
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:32 am
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:58 am to
I think the biggest factor here is the NFL counter-programming. Goodell is going to salt the earth over the CFP for encroaching upon his territory.

Doing the CFP expansion without using the university's immense alumni network in congress to expand the NFL no-fly-zone on Friday and Saturdays through the end of January was yet another faux pas from these mental midgets running college athletics.

But I do think enthusiasm about these matchups, rather the lack of it, played a factor.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 7:59 am
Posted by Bama Bird
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:03 am to
A few things...

(1) those NFL numbers are abysmal for the NFL. Hopefully they'll concede this Saturday going forward, but doubtful. More likely they force CFP into all Tuesday games

(2) I wonder what viewer numbers were for the first quarter

(3) It could get even worse next week when the games are on ESPN only. You can plainly see how drastic the difference is between cable/paid streaming and broadcast. You lose a shite ton of casual viewers with a paywall
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
7222 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:17 am to
College playoff games on TNT is stupid.

Booger McFarland might have influenced the committee, but tv ratings definitely didn't.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8799 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:11 am to
quote:

(1) those NFL numbers are abysmal for the NFL. Hopefully they'll concede this Saturday going forward, but doubtful. More likely they force CFP into all Tuesday games


NFL did a poor job of advertising this. Frankly I think they do a bad job of this with the foreign games too. You wake up on Sunday morning and mid morning you realize there is a game in Berlin that is in the 3rd quarter.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5537 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:25 am to
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Booger McFarland might have influenced the committee, but tv ratings definitely didn't


I think they want the ratings from conference championship games to continue. The playoff poses a problem where those games don't mean much. I think the committee thought leaving out SMU would further hurt the conference championships.

Problem is the conferences outside of the SEC are basically randomly generated now, so I don't think winning them means nearly as much. I'm not sure how many Arizona State fans are taking pride in their bragging rights over Central Florida and Cincinnati fans they will never encounter in person. In the SEC, pride is still there but the game only means seeding now, and there's an argument that getting to play a home tune up against the 12 seed is actually better than a bye.

But the establishment sees those conference championship games as big money makers, so they want them around. I think they thought that if you put SMU in, you preserve the conference championship games and you don't lose the CFP audience because nobody's going to ignore the first ever 12 team playoffs. Obviously, they were wrong. In the long run I still foresee teams sitting starters on conference championship weekend.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8799 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:41 am to
College athletics administrators clinging to old concepts that are clearly dated and unnecessary instead of being proactive and shaping the future?

Damn. I think I’ve already read this book.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:42 am to
Dont know how the ratings are calculated, but several of the games were over at half time, and they probably lost a lot of viewers. Including me.
Posted by Bamafan24
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2014
8482 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:03 am to
A couple of games were over before they started, and with only 1 team had a decent fan base, you are going to lose viewership. I would like to see what numbers are compared to similar game for those hosting teams throughout the year.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65771 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:57 pm to
We all know they "did the right thing" by picking teams like Indiana and SMU.
But, they are ratings disaster type teams.
But, I'm a little surprised at the low number for TX and Clemson
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17881 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

We all know they "did the right thing" by picking teams like Indiana and SMU.


The right thing is picking teams with incredibly easy schedules who still managed to lose?
Posted by rolltideroyalty
Member since Dec 2024
81 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:20 pm to
they really didn't do the "right thing" though. People act as if this smu team didn't have two losses, while beating no one at the same time.

I also don't get how everyone wants to ignore conference championships losses.

Are we just suppose to keep our eyes closed?

SMU beat nobody and then lost to Clemson who also stunk. They had no issue leaving UGA out last year. Although their only loss was to us in the conference champ. Suddenly this year, the idea of what is a good/ bad loss comes up and along with them telling us to close our eyes conference championship week.

And to no ones surprise the SEC gets screwed
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

We all know they "did the right thing" by picking teams like Indiana and SMU

Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22228 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:03 pm to
I didn't watch a single minute of a single game. Probably won't watch any of the rest of them either.
Posted by TriedtosignuponceB4
Member since May 2021
257 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:08 pm to
You and me and a whole lot of other people.

And I know one thing. Alabama-Penn State would have been MUCH higher than any 3.1.
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

Booger McFarland might have influenced the committee


Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7667 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Alabama-Penn State would have been MUCH higher than any 3.1.


Wouldn't have been on TNT, either.
Posted by LaneB
Member since Oct 2021
488 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

they really didn't do the "right thing" though. People act as if this smu team didn't have two losses, while beating no one at the same time.

I also don't get how everyone wants to ignore conference championships losses.

Are we just suppose to keep our eyes closed?

SMU beat nobody and then lost to Clemson who also stunk. They had no issue leaving UGA out last year. Although their only loss was to us in the conference champ. Suddenly this year, the idea of what is a good/ bad loss comes up and along with them telling us to close our eyes conference championship week.

And to no ones surprise the SEC gets screwed


It should be another data point as committee chair indicated but did the opposite. For a team like SMU that additional data point should have meant they have to win that game.

They should have quiet period of no rankings for 2 weeks before Championship games so they dont bind themselves into knot. Doing rankings every week is stupid anyway.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8799 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 6:37 am to
Transparency is not the issue. Consistency in applying their rubric is the issue. Say what you will about the NCAA but they took criticism about the tournament selection process not being consistent and has done quite a bit to make it more knowable and consistent. I'll never be able to prove it but SMU got selected over Alabama for reasons other than football. SMU got the nod because to not give them a nod would crack the can on the CCG concept being ended (bad for broadcasters) and the ACC's death being expedited (bad for administrators on the outside looking in worried about the Big Ten-SEC duopoly reaching final form).

The core problem with the CFP now is they goofed it up with things that you could tongue-in-cheek call DEI for college athletics. As long as the goal is to diversify the field with inclusionary AQ bids for equity purposes, you're going to be damned with this product being subpar.
Posted by LucedaleTider
Lucedale
Member since Sep 2022
354 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 6:55 am to
CFB is going pro ball forumula. Pro sports have been expanding playoffs to keep rantings up and make more money. Most pro sports the top -40% of teams make the playoffs. This keeps more fans engaged and spending for a longer duration. In the pros when you get a new franchise team or a team moves there’s a good chance they will make a deep playoff run shortly after the event. Good for business
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