TriedtosignuponceB4

So in other words, he's basically the Dan Hurley of football...

Former Princeton football player Tiger Bech also among those who were murdered.

Or, more likely, that the SEC refs don't know the rules.

I agree with you.

Great post. And I think the following is the most objective description I've seen yet of the USF debacle: "None of us know all the details of the situation but it was evident that many of the offensive players didn't give a proper effort in the USF game last season when Ty was playing."

"Imagine Milroe in a Shula offense..."

with Dubose on the sideline clapping.

You beat me to it. I should have read down further before posting. :cheers:

I think this is the best way to state it.

Haven't even been watching. What did RW do?

Now that you mention it, I think you're right -- it was Wilcox who fumbled the punt. I think the two fumbled punts that I was remembering came in the 1981 Iron Bowl, and in that case I think it was Jones on both of them.

I didn't remember Ogilvie's fumble, but I'll take your word for it. What I do think I'm remembering correctly, however, is that when Auburn took the lead something like 18-17 after our last turnover, on our first play from scrimmage there was a pitchback to Ogilvie. Either it bounced on the way to him, or he had trouble handling it; either way, the ball hit the ground. He got hold of the ball to avoid yet another turnover, and I think he even gained about 4 yards on the play. From there we took it down the field, scored, and made a 2-point conversion.