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Worse coach: Kiffin or DeBoer

Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:37 am
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
6595 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:37 am
One has a bad resume, the other barely even has a resume.

DeBoer: 2 years of P5 experience, during the second of which he rode Penix in the PAC nothing to get embarrassed in the CFP (a la Bama, but in a much weaker conference).

Kiffin, on the other hand, had more P5 experience and had a fierce reputation as one of the great coaching minds, before he even went to Ole Miss. His P5 record as follows:

Before Ole Miss (UT and USC): 35-21
Since Ole Miss: 42-18

Presently, both seem to suck balls, Kiffin’s ceiling seems to have been reached, while DeBoer is bastardizing the #1 talent composite, destroying everything Saban built over 16 seasons in a matter of months.

Discuss.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
11411 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:38 am to
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3163 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:38 am to
Brian Kelly. /thread

Edit: dammit Hback!
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 10:39 am
Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
5204 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:41 am to
Need more results on Deboer. Come back in a few years
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6620 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:43 am to
Brian Kelly has every built in advantage.. one in state SEC/power 4 school, national brand/name recognition, NFL track record, coaches who have won there in the past with blue print for success..

What is his excuse? Kiffin and DeBoer are better coaches than Kelly.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 9:19 pm
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:46 am to
Kiffin is what he is. Got big jobs early because of nepotism. Wasn't ready and it showed. Went to Saban rehab and grew some. Is a decent offensive mind, but when all is said and done he is just a man child with the mentality of a 22 year old frat boy playing Madden. You love his schtick when you're winning. When you're losing it grates on your nerves. Kiffin has hit his ceiling and is going to spiral more and more into irrelevance as the years go by.
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
2716 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:47 am to
What the fuq is wrong with all you projecting your programs problems on other programs?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61028 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:49 am to
quote:

What is his excuse? Kiffin and DeBoer are better coaches than Kelly.


Kiffin has a worse win percentage and a head to head losing record to Kelly.

Pretty hard to make the case that he is a better coach.
Posted by LSU Tiger Eyes
Key Biscayne, FL
Member since Sep 2003
3269 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:53 am to
You should be more concerned about Kelly, than those other two!
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6620 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:22 am to
He has 10x the built in advantages that Kiffin does and does less with more.

He came from a silver spoon program that starts every season on 3rd base and still couldn’t get it done at ND..

Came to LSU and has only gotten worse. Congrats on beating Lane 2 times I guess. Is that your new measure of success?
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
1634 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:29 am to
Sit this one out, we don't even want our coach.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Kiffin has a worse win percentage and a head to head losing record to Kelly. Pretty hard to make the case that he is a better coach.

I think most would rather have Kiffin than Kelly though neither is ever going to win anything big.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
13693 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:33 am to
DeBoner
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6620 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:57 am to
quote:

neither is ever going to win anything big.


Your fanbase would kill for the success
Kelly and Kiffin have had.

Kiffin and Kelly have won more this year than Lebby will his entire tenure at MSU.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Your fanbase would kill for the success Kelly and Kiffin have had. Kiffin and Kelly have won more this year than Lebby will his entire tenure at MSU.

Ok. What has Kiffin won that State hasn't in the last 15 years or so? What does this have to do with Lebby? Yeah, he might suck forever. Ok? This is about Kiffin and Kelly and neither has won anything of major note. Lebby most likely won't either. It is what it is. So be it.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26897 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Worse coach: Kiffin or DeBoer


Why don't you throw your coach in there as well, hoss.

Then you could ask who is the worst person, and you'd only have one that actually killed someone....
Posted by Nerd
Member since Dec 2019
989 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:37 pm to
Kiffin < Kelly < Husky Harsin
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
11626 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

What has Kiffin won that State hasn't in the last 15 years or so?


Multiple 10 win seasons, won a NY6 bowl game, hasn't had the star QB and best player in program history poop himself during the egg bowl
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
72500 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Kiffin is what he is. Got big jobs early because of nepotism. Wasn't ready and it showed. Went to Saban rehab and grew some. Is a decent offensive mind, but when all is said and done he is just a man child with the mentality of a 22 year old frat boy playing Madden. You love his schtick when you're winning. When you're losing it grates on your nerves. Kiffin has hit his ceiling and is going to spiral more and more into irrelevance as the years go by.

quote:

Mississippi State Fan


Keep saying it. Maybe one day it will be true
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 1:45 pm
Posted by teamjackson
call me Walnut
Member since Nov 2012
7038 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:46 pm to
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