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Mike Shula is an assistant coach for South Carolina
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:02 pm
Small world. Hopefully we don’t shite the bed again this week against the jumbo package.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:52 pm to Pastor Mike
No ill will towards Shula. He simply wasn't ready to be HC at Alabama. It was not a great situation he walked into. Not sure how he feels about the university these days, but he's also a former starting QB for us...I'd like to think he'd be welcomed back by fans (just not on Saturday).
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:04 pm to Chad4Bama
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No ill will towards Shula. He simply wasn't ready to be HC at Alabama. It was not a great situation he walked into. Not sure how he feels about the university these days, but he's also a former starting QB for us...I'd like to think he'd be welcomed back by fans (just not on Saturday).
Shula dealt with the strain of severe scholarship limitations on top of injuries to seemingly every key player each season. I mean, when Auburn came to town in 2004, we were starting a third string walk on at QB and still gave them a scare.
Despite all that, he still left Bama with a winning record and his teams were in almost every game until the depth chart started to show.
I doubt even Saban would have had much success here during that period. We saw how his 2007 team fell apart after the textbook suspensions as the depth chart was still depleted.
I truly don't hate the guy but some of the shite that is said about him is unwarranted.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:04 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
Shula did the best he could with the hand he was dealt.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:06 pm to Pastor Mike
I seriously doubt he's got a doll with a Crimson jersey sticking pins in it. I'm sure he wants to beat our arse because we're playing the team that pays his salary now, I wouldn't expect him to do otherwise, but I doubt he's been dreaming of revenge for close to 20 years.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 8:42 am to Chad4Bama
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It was not a great situation he walked into.
This is the understatement of the century. Guy walked into a situation where we were one year into a 5 year probation where we lost 21 scholarships and the previous coach had been fired after spring practice and without actually coaching a single game. It was a toal and utter mess.
I'm actually surprised he was even able to put a full staff together given the timeframe and situation. Through that shite-show he managed to get a team to 10 wins and a Cotton Bowl victory.
Was he the guy that could have got Bama back to elite levels? Probably not. We've heard the stories about the lack of discipline, being too loyal to staff that really wasn't up to the task (looking at you, Bucket-step Bob). Not sure we would have overcome that. We'll never really know what it would look like if he would have a fully stocked team to work with. He did manage to recruit a few solid pieces of '09 title team. He should get a bit of credit for that.
I'm sure this is looking at it all through rose tinted glasses, and I'm okay with that. He took on what was probably the toughest spot a coach could be put in and had some bright spots. I was always a little conflicted about his firing. Was hiring Saban the right thing? absolutely. But, always felt like Shula took one on the chin and was treated like a placeholder in the end, that didn't feel great especially him being one of our own. I'd hope that they do a little recognition for him at some point.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 8:50 am to RolltidePA
Shula should be held in esteem for coming in at the last minute and taking over a situation so bad the previous guy ran away. He knew he was going to have scholarship limitations and still did a solid job overall.
Shula didn't do a great job with discipline, that's for sure.
He went 26-23 in 4 years. Since 2018 Auburn is 42-39. So Mike Shula has a better winning percentage than Auburn has had over the last 7 seasons.
Shula should be able to walk around Tuscaloosa with his head held high for walking into that situation and doing a lot better job than people give him credit for.
Shula didn't do a great job with discipline, that's for sure.
He went 26-23 in 4 years. Since 2018 Auburn is 42-39. So Mike Shula has a better winning percentage than Auburn has had over the last 7 seasons.
Shula should be able to walk around Tuscaloosa with his head held high for walking into that situation and doing a lot better job than people give him credit for.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:29 am to bamatide07
Shula wasn't a bad coach and his tenure had some bright spots. He couldn't compete with Tuberville at Auburn and Saban/Miles at LSU, but not many could, and he was trying to do it with scholarship limitations. He did have some terrible injury luck to deal with, too. But the best thing he ever did for the university, and I mean this seriously with no ill will, was force Mal Moore to fire him. Moore was going to give Shula another year if he agreed to bring in some new assistants and he refused, which led directly to us hiring Saban.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:31 am to PuertoRicanBlaze
BINGO. Coach Shula took one for the team and we should forever be grateful.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:34 am to bamatide07
Shula had all those scholly reductions and these mostly season ending injuries:
QB - Croyle - blew his knee out
OT - Britt - broke his leg
RB - Castille - blew his knee out
OG - Mathis - played with stress fracture in leg
May be forgetting some others.
QB - Croyle - blew his knee out
OT - Britt - broke his leg
RB - Castille - blew his knee out
OG - Mathis - played with stress fracture in leg
May be forgetting some others.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 1:56 pm to Night Vision
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May be forgetting some others.
Tyrone Prothro breaking his leg was one of the most consequential injuries in Alabama history. With him in the lineup our offense was actually somewhat dangerous. Once he went down, though, we were never the same. Which is a shame because I have read that, statistically at least, that 2005 Alabama defense was, at the time, the best defense the SEC had seen since 1992 Alabama. That team was kind of the evil twin of LSU last year: championship-caliber on one side of the ball, barely functional on the other.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:09 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Yep, should have remembered that.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:28 pm to Night Vision
JMO but Mal should have allowed Joe Kines (stop that inside trap) to become the HC for that one year thus giving the U of A a year to search/plan for a new HC. The year was going to be a clusterfeck regardless.
Perhaps Mal was thinking along that line but others made the call to throw the Hail Mary.
Mal gave him a chance to unload the OC (back to Haverty's furniture but he declined to make changes (after consulting in one Ray Perkins).
Dave Radar was the OC. Dave is currently a state senator in Oklahoma.
Perhaps Mal was thinking along that line but others made the call to throw the Hail Mary.
Mal gave him a chance to unload the OC (back to Haverty's furniture but he declined to make changes (after consulting in one Ray Perkins).
Dave Radar was the OC. Dave is currently a state senator in Oklahoma.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:08 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
I don't "hate" Shula. He did his best under horrific conditions and took this job when literally NO ONE wanted the job. I remember Saban commenting regarding the situation, "I'm not sure anyone could have done a better job given the circumstances there.".
Honestly, overall, he fielded some pretty good teams with some good players on both sides of the ball. Trouble was, there was ZERO depth. Seemed like most of the time, the defense got tired in the 4th and started giving up points. Add to that if someone got injured, we were often playing former walk ons or guys who were probably 2 star recruits who should be at Samford or UNA.
His biggest mistake was taking advice from Ray Perkins. HORRIBLE mistake.
FYI-I'm pretty sure Mike is an analyst at USCe, not a coach.
My son-in-law is on the NCAA compliance staff at USCe and tells me Mike is very well liked/respected by the football staff/team. Said he's met Mike and is still a super nice guy.
Honestly, overall, he fielded some pretty good teams with some good players on both sides of the ball. Trouble was, there was ZERO depth. Seemed like most of the time, the defense got tired in the 4th and started giving up points. Add to that if someone got injured, we were often playing former walk ons or guys who were probably 2 star recruits who should be at Samford or UNA.
His biggest mistake was taking advice from Ray Perkins. HORRIBLE mistake.
FYI-I'm pretty sure Mike is an analyst at USCe, not a coach.
My son-in-law is on the NCAA compliance staff at USCe and tells me Mike is very well liked/respected by the football staff/team. Said he's met Mike and is still a super nice guy.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 8:12 am
Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:45 am to Amarillo Tide
mike shula will always be a bama man, period. the comeback drive and pass to al bell to beat uga and the drive to get tiffin in position for the kick that ripped out auburns heart are etched in our memories. just because his head coaching abilities were suspect, regardless of the situation, he tried. so we put our arms around him pat him on the back and say you're always welcome home son.
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