New Round of Expansion

FSU and Clemson expected to announce they are leaving the ACC on the 12th which is expected to open the exodus from the ACC. It is debated which schools will get and accept an invite from the SEC.

quote:

---

FSU and Clemson expected to announce they are leaving the ACC on the 12th

---

I’m gonna wait for Jim Sweet to confirm this thanks

"Ideally" (given we will be expanding again) I think the top 4 choices would be:

(1) FSU
(2) Clemson
(3) UNC
(4) VT

Would get the SEC to 20. If they decide to add 6 and get to 22, I would then imagine that UVA and NC State would also get picked up.

I'm hoping Miami, FSU, GTech, Clemson, UNC, NC State, Virginia, and VTech, get to 24 teams and operate like a league.

The SEC could also set it up playing every team at least 1 per 4 years on a 9 game conference schedule. Each team has 3 permanent rivals, and then 4 that rotate every 2 years (play 2 on odd years and 2 on even years). Then play the 16 others over a 4 year span (4 every year) totaling 9 game schedule.

I'm not convinced it will happen until we're closer to the SEC's TV contract being up.

The SEC added OU and Texas and didn't get any more money per team from ESPN. I'm pretty sure the SEC teams thought they would.

Now, I think the SEC waits until just before negotiations for the next contract come up. The current TV contracts ends after the 2033-34 season. I'm guessing the SEC won't be in a hurry to add teams before 2030 or 2031.

I don't see the point of having two South Carolina schools in the conference. I'd rather have Clemson than South Carolina, sure, but why dilute the brand like that?

The only reason you would add them is so the B1G cant, but I wouldn't care that much about the B1G having a footprint in South Carolina.

Now, this reasoning is why I would actually take Florida State, to keep the B1G out of the region, but why Florida State should consider joining the B1G.

Florida State is the most "SEC-like" program left on the board, and they would be perfect fits, but if you're them, do you want to be one of two SEC schools in Florida, or the only program in the region that's offering something different to players, ie the ability to play USC and Ohio State regularly. And it doesn't hurt that the B1G pays more than the SEC. And even something further to consider, if the B1G is determined to have a footprint in Florida(like the should be and like I think they are with the State of Texas), do you want Miami to then be the B1G school in Florida playing a national schedule, while you're playing 6th fiddle to Bama, Georgia, Florida, A&M and Tennessee? Honestly, Florida State is the only program out there I'd LOVE to have in the SEC, but if I was them, I would take a real hard look at the layout of the land and would probably conclude the B1G was the better option.

From the SEC's perspective, giving the B1G a foothold in the state of Florida might be inevitable unless you're willing to take Florida State and Miami, and between the two I think Florida State is the better addition, so I would do that.

I think population center wise it's a no-brainer to take North Carolina and Virginia, and I think either of those states could handle more than one program, and I think NC State or Duke is fine.

I think at a certain point, the SEC solidifying the great brands in the Southeast is a good idea, and you're starting to trade off with what you'd rather the B1G have. I'd rather the B1G have Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, NC State and Virginia Tech, and the SEC have Florida State, UNC, Duke and Virginia. Some might argue that Duke is a small private school and we don't need another Vanderbilt, but I'd argue that you want a great brand and you have enough football powers.

quote:

---

I’m gonna wait for Jim Sweet to confirm this thanks

---

Confirmed. Dabo coming!

BOOM

I look at it as more of a power move to add the group of Southern ACC schools so BIG can't.

If the BIG adds multiple Southern schools, where does the SEC turn to balance out potential voting power in the new landscape if it came to it. BIG would be the juggernaut. While the SEC would definitely still be involved, the BIG would be able to call shots.

I still think its 5ish years from a new landscape.

I think Big 10 makes the next move.

Rumor has it Clemson will strike a deal next. The BIG10 wants even numbers so their other teams ranked in order are:

1. Notre Dame
2. Texas A&M
3. North Carolina
4. Florida State

The BIG10 will try to convince Notre Dame they need to abandon their independence / scheduling agreement with the ACC since Clemson leaving will be the first death blow to the league. That’s why Clemson is first choice. They need Clemson to leave to convince Notre Dame the time to leave the dying ACC is now.

If the Irish remain independent, I think they’ll try to get Aggie to leave the SEC. I think that’s why rumors have been percolating for the past few months.

If Texas A&M stays in the SEC, then it becomes a real fight between Florida State and North Carolina. The Seminoles are the better athletic program and would get the BIG10 into Florida which has seen explosive population growth. However, growth in NC is also strong and UNC provides the academic prestige that the BIG10 presidents desire.

Part of the hang up with North Carolina is they’ve always had a loose agreement with Virginia that they’d be a package deal together. Will UNC leave Virginia in the dust or stand firm with them and rival Duke to keep the ACC afloat? Who knows.

If all else fails, Florida State is waiting eagerly for an invitation.

Notre Dame and/or Texas A&M would get full rights / full money.

I think for Clemson and the other ACC teams, they’d have to take a small cut to be able to come in