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re: Is Brian Kelly retarded?

Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:42 am to
Posted by Choot em Tiger
Member since Jan 2012
9782 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:42 am to
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Anyone on our team who is rated a late round pick 5-7, but still has eligibility left, we offer them NIL over what they'd get paid in the NFL. I think they have all mostly stayed.


For 1, advising to pay 5th-7th round picks to stay in college with more money than what is being in the NFL is dumb. They aren’t high draft picks.
Mason Smith and Mekhi Wingo were each offered a minimum of $500k (likely more) to return. Smith surprisingly made the right decision as he got drafted in the 2nd round and will likely be getting a lot more than that.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 6:43 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27318 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:34 am to
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Let me explain for the retards I guess.

Anyone on our team who is rated a late round pick 5-7, but still has eligibility left, we offer them NIL over what they'd get paid in the NFL. I think they have all mostly stayed


They offered him 500k supposedly. Wingo said no.

He probably thought he would get drafted in the 4th or 5th at latest.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 8:35 am
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10058 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:39 am to
Not a fan of Brian Kelly but if they're fighting back against the NIL market I'm for it.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53001 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:37 am to
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Why are LSU fans so delusional?


You predicted Milton would win the Heisman, your predictions absolutely blow.

Sorry that no one just takes your predictions as gospel.


Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30267 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:02 am to
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All trolling aside, I think what he's trying to say is he wants to build up the longterm culture, multiyear players who want to be at LSU, and not rely on hitting the "free agent" portal market every season.

Look at what Kirby's doing at UGA, that team is built from within.

That said, we have some holes to fill, and if you want to compete for a title, you need to fill those holes somehow.

MAYBE what his plan is, is to commit to the high schoolers and get them to commit to LSU, to build the program; instead of getting a transfer or 2 every year to start. Maybe he's trying to turn that corner now, before it becomes precedent here.

I think this ^^ is exactly what he's trying to say. CBK wants to build a solid foundation, and it's difficult to do these days. A consistent contender has to have a foundation with depth, that isn't achievable in shifting sand, i.e. players portalling in & out, left & right seeking the money train.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 2:32 pm
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15607 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:05 am to
Good point RT.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53001 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:07 am to
Based on what we've witnessed so far, these "highest bidder" type guys aren't even usually elite contributors so why risk destroying team chemistry for that?

You end up with an A&M situation.

Look at the championship teams, 2023 Michigan was #14 in team talent, 2023 Washington was #26, neither had any big name portal transfers.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
5432 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:32 am to
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Let me explain for the retards I guess.

Anyone on our team who is rated a late round pick 5-7, but still has eligibility left, we offer them NIL over what they'd get paid in the NFL. I think they have all mostly stayed.


That’s not what your original post said, you absolute knob. You said something about buying players back “out of the draft.” That reads like you’re going to buy back a player after he’s drafted. You can’t do that but that’s what you said. If you need writing lessons, I minored in journalism. Glad to help you out.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53001 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:34 am to
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That’s not what your original post said, you absolute knob. You said something about buying players back “out of the draft.” That reads like you’re going to buy back a player after he’s drafted. You can’t do that but that’s what you said. If you need writing lessons, I minored in journalism. Glad to help you out.


I think you just misunderstood, I took his statement as exactly what he said.
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
1886 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:36 am to
Yes is the answer to your original question.

Which makes him smarter than most in the state he now resides.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:37 am to
"We're not in the market for buying players"

Clearly Jayden Daniels and Harold Perkins went to LSU for the ACADEMICS...
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
2767 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:39 am to
He says the same exact thing as Saban and Bama fans immediately shite all over him.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53001 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:40 am to
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"We're not in the market for buying players"

Clearly Jayden Daniels and Harold Perkins went to LSU for the ACADEMICS...


Harold Perkins is from Louisiana originally.

Jayden Daniels was basically picking between LSU and Missouri.

I doubt LSU signed either of them based on money alone.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
2767 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:48 am to
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This idea that Oklahoma paid a huge amount more than LSU or Texas offered is wrong. He got paid less than a million, OU isnt in the business of resetting the rental market.

Texas, LSU insiders butthurt their coaches couldn't close


The last demand his handler gave LSU was for more money than any player on the roster or assistant coach on staff currently makes in a year. LSU told him to frick off. Texas did as well, even though they could offer more than either LSU or OU if they wanted to.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
2767 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:53 am to
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Barrow and Williams were definitely overpaid but LSU would've paid it in a heartbeat if they had the money...they don't.


LSU has the money. What they don't have is the money to pay the other 80 some odd players on the roster the same amount when they ask the coach why in the frick they are making less than some random DT from the spring portal.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
4413 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:55 am to
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BK is in BR to get his retirement money. He's not trying to win anything of significance.


What a stupid take. Yes, they were paying him in bread crumbs at Notre Dame.
Posted by Mizzouligan
St. Louis, MO
Member since Aug 2014
393 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:21 pm to
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quote:
"We are not in the market of buying players."


They just offered a transfer DT over $400K last week

Comical to pretend like it's a culture thing when everybody knows LSU is poor as frick.


Exactly. Just say you got outbid. Dude is such a douche it’s painful..
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24546 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
2259 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:21 pm to
Agree with having discipline with who gets paid what. Wise move.

But if your NIL overall program is not competitive you will not be competitive in the SEC.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20447 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:35 pm to
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Agree with having discipline with who gets paid what. Wise move.

But if your NIL overall program is not competitive you will not be competitive in the SEC.
That's a fair statement.

I think LSU's NIL deals are fine, and I think Kelly wants to set precedent now that the guys who are here now will get the money, not some random dude from the portal who wasn't more than an average starter.
That gets more kids coming younger/out of high school, where they can develop and learn within the program.

You DON'T want to be the school that reloads in the portal every year, and pays through the nose to do so. That's not sustainable. If you can land a legit superstar, you take him and pay. But you don't pay a guy a million simply because you want to take "a DL". Dude might be a bust, or he might be just rotation.

Look at LSU's players drafted this year. Mehki Wingo was good, Jordan Jefferson was solid, Maason Smith got hurt and didn't show out on the field.
Wingo and Jefferson were transfers. Wingo went in the 5th rd because he's got limited size and upside, what you see is what you get, and we don't know if he can thrive in the NFL at his size. Jefferson went in the 4th because he's bigger.
Maason Smith went in the 2nd, because he was a stud, and if he recovers to pre-injury and develops, could be a stud in the NFL.

You want to sign more Maason Smiths out of high school (and hope they don't get hurt), instead of continously signing 4th and 5th rd picks because "we need to fill a hole". You fill the hole for 1, maybe 2 years, and then you're back in the portal, looking at another B or C player.
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