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Bowl Games and NIL tweet

Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:30 am
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
2234 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:30 am
Ross Dellinger Tweet

Will be curious to see if this comes to fruition.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119440 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:32 am to
Should be that way. Pay for play comes with contracts that both sides uphold.

You should also be able to take money away for poor performance
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65046 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:35 am to
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You should also be able to take money away for poor performance



So you want a contract employee but a one sided contract where you only have to pay under certain conditions but he always has to work
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 8:36 am
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7577 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:42 am to
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You should also be able to take money away for poor performance


I don't agree with taking away money because they played poorly, or didn't record enough yards/tackles. However, if you miss games because of academics, failing drug tests, suspended for disciplinary reasons, missing meetings/workouts, quitting the team, etc. then the team shouldn't be obligated to pay the full amount.

I would like to see at least 2-year contracts however so we don't have this annual NIL transfer portal free-for-all. That being said, players that sign mulit-year contracts will likely try to do hold-outs and such if they go crazy in the first year of their deal, trying to renegotiate.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 8:46 am
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14343 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:44 am to
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Will be curious to see if this comes to fruition.


It's not surprising that Baker and the NCAA are looking for the better mouse trap but Sankey and the B1G have been breaking bread for months now trying to hammer out the same stuff. Still a day late and ...............
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9339 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:45 am to
And UAB stated "the team has no plans to bargain with their school" when their union plans were announced Monday.

Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2797 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:58 am to
Seems like a lot of stuff has to happen before that can work. You can't really force anyone to play a game and I really doubt the NCAA has a legal leg to stand on in order to force NIL contracts to have language in them where a player only gets paid if they play all games. Probably needs 1) Conferences to break off 2) Classify the players as employees 3) Create a CBA 4) CBA says the employees can only sign with NILs that have language in them compelling them to play all the games or you will be penalized 5) And now that you are an employee, you can be restricted from transferring to a new employer - those court rulings on transfers are about students, not employees
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18460 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:19 am to
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for athletes to sign binding compensation contracts with schools that will require them to play in bowls and CFP games, eliminating or greatly reducing opt-outs.


That’s not how NIL works and the NCAA/universities will have to revise their policies on pay-for-play with student athletes. Essentially they would become employees of the universities.

Outside of that, bowl games, scholarships, the NCAA - none of it can regulate NIL or compensation from NIL for on-field performance.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
4009 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 10:51 am to
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Will be curious to see if this comes to fruition.
Dont see how that works legally. And, even if it does, won’t NFL prospects just hit the portal to a school that doesn’t require bowl participation so they can prep for combine?
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
8110 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 10:54 am to
Then that’s not collective bargaining. You can’t organize then say I’m not going to negotiate….. who are they going to negotiate with?
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:05 am to
100% support. About time NIL should do something actually positive for the sport.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119440 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:17 am to
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So you want a contract employee but a one sided contract where you only have to pay under certain conditions but he always has to work


How is a performance clause in a contract one sided?
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
2660 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:31 am to
My bold prediction is that there's going to be one too many injuries in playoff games to projected first round picks and at some point there will become sorme organized pushback from the players.

The thing that many tend to forget is that 95 percent of these first round draft picks didn't grow up dreaming of playing for the flagship university in their state – they grew up playing in the NFL.

And when the're so close they can sniff it, after putting in years and years of work, then they have to go out and potentially play 3 more games when they could be training for the NFL Combine and get a nice chunk of money fronted by their agent and cash in.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7273 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:43 am to
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So you want a contract employee but a one sided contract where you only have to pay under certain conditions but he always has to work


Good luck with that when one program doesn't have that language....
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65046 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:23 pm to
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How is a performance clause in a contract one sided?

Define performance clause. So a guy has a bad game and you dock his pay? Yeah good luck with any player on planet earth signing that bud. You want to say a player has to show up to play, attend meetings, and go to practice, sure.
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