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re: Brian Kelly hasn't aged at all over the last few years.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 4:49 pm to Tridentds
Posted on 3/13/24 at 4:49 pm to Tridentds
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Agree with this sentiment. Just an accident. References to Kelly somehow killing a kid should be stopped altogether.
Enough of this gutter shite.
You're in the wrong place.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:31 pm to Lateralus1
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God didn't demand practice be held outdoors in spite of a wind advisory.
You say this as if football practices during wind or heat advisories don't happen all the time.
Texas A&M held their spring game under a wind advisory a few years back.
Hell, the 1983 Iron Bowl featured a tornado warning during the game and play wasn't even stopped.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:50 pm to JTM72
HaHaha lsu win next year yeah real funny you shouldn't have wasted that money on a yankee
Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:16 pm to SidewalkTiger
Big difference. No one died in those activities.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:16 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Texas A&M held their spring game under a wind advisory a few years back.
Hell, the 1983 Iron Bowl featured a tornado warning during the game and play wasn't even stopped.
Did anyone die? Only one coach has had that happen under a wind advisory that I'm aware of.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:51 pm to Mr Sausage
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Big difference. No one died in those activities.
The decisions by the head coaches weren't really any different, which is what is being discussed here.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:00 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The decisions by the head coaches weren't really any different, which is what is being discussed here.
I doubt you were even alive for that iron bowl, so you dont really know.
Bottom line remains the same. You may continue with your excuses now.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:33 am to Clemson_all_in1979
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you shouldn't have wasted that money on a yankee
Real funny coming from someone whose team wasted money on napier
Also, I never claimed when the next time LSU would beat bama. So not too sure where you pulled that one from, your arse maybe?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:46 am to SidewalkTiger
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Hell, the 1983 Iron Bowl featured a tornado warning during the game and play wasn't even stopped.
That wasn't the most dangerous thing going on. Thunderstorms with lightning bolts from hades were often met with disdain by fans, players, and TV crews. Who knew they could actually kill you?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:54 am to SidewalkTiger
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You say this as if football practices during wind or heat advisories don't happen all the time.
Yes. But you don't have to put a kid in an elevated lift to film practice during a wind advisory.
Teams certainly don't do that anymore. Not sure how often it would happen before the kid died under Kelly's watch.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:07 am to DawginSC
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Yes. But you don't have to put a kid in an elevated lift to film practice during a wind advisory.
Brian Kelly didn't do that, the head football coach doesn't oversee the student video crew, the athletic department does.
Their video coordinator made the decision to use lifts that day, he also advised the students not to raise them above a certain threshold.
It's interesting that no one ever blames him, the athletic director, or president of the university.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:09 am to SidewalkTiger
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It's interesting that no one ever blames him, the athletic director, or president of the university.
Not surprising at all just like how this board likes to pretend LSU stole money from sick kids.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:25 am to LSU Patrick
There were several official investigations into the incident, including one by OSHA.
None implicated Brian Kelly in any wrongdoing. If he had been guilty of something, it would have been fairly easy for Notre Dame to simply fire him. That would have satisfied the PR disaster.
But some posters here are fairly desperate to pretend he was responsible.
None implicated Brian Kelly in any wrongdoing. If he had been guilty of something, it would have been fairly easy for Notre Dame to simply fire him. That would have satisfied the PR disaster.
But some posters here are fairly desperate to pretend he was responsible.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:25 am to SidewalkTiger
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It's interesting that no one ever blames him, the athletic director, or president of the university.
Oh, there's enough blame for everyone involved.
What's kind of funny (or sad really) is that when Notre Dame was found to be at fault for the death by OSHA, they did the blame shifting game. Nobody was identified as being the one who made the decision to use the lifts. They pointed at the ND coaches as being the ones who decided "against the athletic department recommendations" to have practice.
The coaches said that they decided to have practice but the decision to use the lifts was someone else's call.
So effectively the university got a small fine and nobody was responsible for the kid dying due to the blame shifting game. The AD blamed the coaches. The coaches blamed the AD. Nobody got in trouble.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:28 am to DawginSC
They all got incredibly lucky that the family didn't want to sue everyone involved. I imagine those depositions would have been very interesting regarding one current coonass coach.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:41 am to DawginSC
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The school noted that three people were most involved in advising coach Brian Kelly on whether it was safe to practice outside: director of football operations Chad Klunder, then-head athletic trainer Jim Russ and Tim Collins, director of football video and film.
"Ultimately, no one — not Collins, Klunder, nor Russ — told Kelly or any coach that practice should be held indoors or that the lifts should not be used," the report says.
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The report did say that while Collins was concerned about the wind, "he did not believe that the winds were strong enough to warrant grounding the lifts."
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Sullivan’s supervisor, video system technician Tim Collins, said he believed it was safe to use the lifts because weather.com and the weather service had the wind speeds in the mid-20s with gusts from 29 to 31 mph.
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Collins did, however, order that the lifts be only partially extended, records show. He also decided not to let a novice student videographer go up in the lift because he thought she might become scared, though she eventually was sent up.
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“When I walked into the office, I was informed by Tim Collins that we would be practicing outside, contrary to his judgment,” Frank told the investigator. “When we were outside, I was instructed by Tim to only raise my lift halfway up.”
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Sullivan raised his lift to about 39 feet, just short of its full extension, records show. The OSHA investigation found the student videographers had minimal training on the equipment.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:49 am to SidewalkTiger
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Ultimately, no one — not Collins, Klunder, nor Russ — told Kelly or any coach that practice should be held indoors or that the lifts should not be used," the report says.
He's not smart enough to figure it out on his own?
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SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly said Saturday it was his decision to hold practice outdoors on a windy day when a student videographer died after the lift he was in fell over.
Everyone knew the consequences of crossing Brian and his shoe lifts.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:04 am to Lateralus1
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He's not smart enough to figure it out on his own?
I can tell you've never held any type of management role.
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