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Sayin tidbit from Watts

Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:28 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:28 am
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don't think it's a coincidence Sayin to the portal came right after the Mack commitment. I've shared my thoughts on Mack. But I can tell you the CKD staff loves him, obviously. They convinced him to reclassify and signed him twice. I say that without there being any other meaning. The Alabama staff likes Austin Mack, and at the end of the day, I think that played into Sayin's decision to leave.


Probably easy to like a guy like Mack when you don’t have the clout as a program to be involved with top 25 players.

Kalen, you do now. You don’t take home the last call option at 10:00 pm

He needs to run the program his way, but this isn’t a situation where he’s stepping in for a guy that was fired. He’s stepping in for the GOAT. The program doesn’t need a rebuild (yet). When I read an implication that our top 3 recruit was chased off because you brought in your old third string QB, it’s starting to get a little alarming. Saban ran off some Shula guys, but he replaced them with better players.

I won’t write any judgments in stone until the games are played on the field…but he has to know how this looks optically, what it’s saying to others in the building, and that he isn’t buying any more grace with the fanbase with moves like this. Is choosing your 3 star over Nicks 5 star really the play?

Some of these guys were leaving regardless but this move sounds like a personnel decision and he took Mack at the expense of Sayin, which is hard to wrap my head around considering the old staff zeroed in on Sayin early and the industry at large agreed he was an elite prospect. Just don’t know about this one fellas.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:30 am to
IF Sayin was run off by a lowly three-star QB then that tells me a lot about the kid's competitive spirit.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3244 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:31 am to
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The program doesn’t need a rebuild (yet).
Respectfully disagree. Many came to play for Nick, not Alabama. We were fine with that as long as he was coaching. With him gone you have to build a team that wants to play for CKD and Alabama. Holding on to kids to avoid looking bad is not the way to go about it.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21706 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:33 am to
Seems more likely in the light of this new day that Mack was brought in BECAUSE Sayin was leaving, not vice versa. At the very least he was strongly considering it. There's no way Mack commits last night and Sayin is in the portal at sunrise this morning otherwise.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 9:34 am
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14571 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:34 am to
Sayin leaving after another kid shows up says a lot more about Sayin than the staff

Maybe the timing is incorrect in how it has been reported. I feel like JS is missing a great opportunity.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44450 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:36 am to
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Is choosing your 3 star over Nicks 5 star really the play?


If you can't have both and you are absolutely positive that the 3* is going to be a monster because you've seen him light it up in practice for the last year, then yes.

It doesn't quite sound like it was an either/or situation though, which is a bit concerning to me.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24633 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:37 am to
Sayin is a terrible loss. Mack is a good replacement. I’m waaaaay sadder about Downs and Proctor
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11848 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:38 am to
According to the services Mack is a 4 star on every service. Just want to point that out. I also doubt Sayin would have started over Penix and would have been a backup as well.

Also under Saban most everyone this past season felt that the 2nd best QB on the team is Lonergan but yet he was 4th string. Just saying
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:40 am to
So let me make sure I understand.

We were bleeding players at WR and DB and our idiot coach went and got another QB when the QB room was already too full. ??
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:42 am to
shite, I'm old enough to remember losing Keenan Allen when he decommitted from Alabama in 2010.

And he went on to become a top-50 NFL WR of all time. Illogically, that somehow still pisses me off.

We've also won 5 national championships since he did that. Will we do that again? Probably not.

But things happen, especially in recruiting. They always have.

We'll be fine.

Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1480 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:56 am to
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I say that without there being any other meaning.


In other words, he doesn't know anymore than the rest of us.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25682 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:57 am to
Kicking the #1 QB in America out in favor of your Pacific Northwest pet ain’t a good choice IMO
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30609 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:59 am to
And here we go!
CKD, and his new offensive coaching staff know a TON more than we do about Mack, plus we don't know if Sayin wasn't gonna leave to begin with (very thin at WR). All this "doubters talk" is only going to stir the pot for all our opponents. We owe it to this team and coaching staff to give them a chance to prove themselves this coming season, THEN start all the bitching IF we're not satisfied.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18347 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:05 am to
I knew this would happen with the Mack commitment. The qb room was too crowded.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6024 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:06 am to
Mack committed yesterday after Sayin told DeBoer he was out. That's the likely scenario.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10421 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:24 am to
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Probably easy to like a guy like Mack when you don’t have the clout as a program to be involved with top 25 players.
Mack is a top 10 QB in his class, he's younger than Julian Sayin, and he has a full year of experience learning the DeBoer/Grubb offense.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83852 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:16 am to
Sayin was leaving after Saban retired.

It’s insane to pretend he wasn’t.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26999 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:04 pm to
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When I read an implication that our top 3 recruit was chased off because you brought in your old third string QB


Maybe our top 3 recruit didn't have the balls or confidence to fight for the job and win.

Jalen Hurts and Tua are my standard for the competitive attitude I want in a QB. Neither was afraid to compete against each other.

If Sayin doesn't want to have to compete against a 3rd string QB to win the job, frick him. Good riddance.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12236 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:22 pm to
That's a interesting move, run off the top QB in the country for a 3 star.

That's how one gets fired after two seasons.
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