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Is Alabama closer to being Georgia or Clemson right now?
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:26 am
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:26 am
Georgia: #1, undefeated, but with uncharacteristic struggles and inconsistent play, usually in the first half.
Clemson: Unranked, with a 4-3 record, but 2 of the losses were in overtime and the other was a really weird game against Duke.
Clemson: Unranked, with a 4-3 record, but 2 of the losses were in overtime and the other was a really weird game against Duke.
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Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:28 am to Goombaw
Trying to answer honestly I’d say more like UGA. Clemson hasn’t recruited well or used the portal to their detriment. I don’t think we are that fallen.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:33 am to CrimsonBoz
We are most definitely climbing upward!
Clemson is horrible.
Clemson is horrible.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:34 am to Goombaw
Neither. Georgia has had a steady diet of creampuffs and has done OK but not great. Pretty sure if they played Bama's schedule, they'd have lost at least one and probably 2 games.
Clemson is in a bit of a free fall. Dabo has shown that without elite QB play, he's a middling HC. Ever since Sunshine left, they've been just a so so team. I can see them being an 8-4 or 7-5 team year in and year out as things are. Of course, I think Clemson will fire him with records like that for too long.
Clemson is in a bit of a free fall. Dabo has shown that without elite QB play, he's a middling HC. Ever since Sunshine left, they've been just a so so team. I can see them being an 8-4 or 7-5 team year in and year out as things are. Of course, I think Clemson will fire him with records like that for too long.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:45 am to Amarillo Tide
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Dabo has shown that without elite QB play, he's a middling HC.
They were a #1 seed with Kelly Bryant at QB. I think a better take is that Dabo was a great head coach for the player empowerment era because of his strong culture building but hasn’t adapted to the era of the players actually having the power.
They still recruit pretty well, but because they don’t use the portal, they basically have to hit on every high school guy.
Basically they are what we would have been if Saban hadn’t changed his offensive/defensive philosophies after 2013. Dabo hasn’t adapted.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:49 am to TomRollTideRitter
Clubnik is NOT an elite QB. Period. And they've done little to nothing to adapt to that.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:07 am to Amarillo Tide
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Pretty sure if they played Bama's schedule, they'd have lost at least one and probably 2 games.
Eh... I don’t know about that.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:28 am to TomRollTideRitter
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They still recruit pretty well, but because they don’t use the portal, they basically have to hit on every high school guy.
They also only offer like 50 guys and give scholarships to the sons of their coaches and Dabo's friends. Their margin for error on talent evals is non-existent.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:08 am to Amarillo Tide
I think Clemson's QB is good...it's just Clemson don't really develop QB's.
Give that guy to Lane Kiffin or Sark and he'll be a STAR!
Give that guy to Lane Kiffin or Sark and he'll be a STAR!
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:00 pm to Joka2kold
Alabama is closer to being Alabama of 3 years ago than any body else. We are our own standard.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:23 pm to My2Bits
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Alabama is closer to being Alabama of 3 years ago than any body else. We are our own standard.
This. Tennessee came out on fire yesterday and their defense is pretty good. We dismantled a really good football yesterday in the second half.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:49 pm to Amarillo Tide
Clemson’s two losses outside of Miami are pretty damn unlucky. Duke had a four turnover lead in that game and barely scraped by.
Clemson’s not in a free fall so much as just having one of the worst coin flip seasons in years. It’s our version of last year if the A&M game ends up as a loss
Clemson’s not in a free fall so much as just having one of the worst coin flip seasons in years. It’s our version of last year if the A&M game ends up as a loss
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:43 pm to UhOhOreo
Yeah, that was kind of my point. Are we a pretty good team that’s a couple of bad bounces and boneheaded plays away from 4-3, like Clemson, or are we a potentially great team that’s still just figuring out its identity, like Georgia?
Maybe a better question would be: Are we 2015 Bama or 2019 Bama?
Maybe a better question would be: Are we 2015 Bama or 2019 Bama?
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:43 am to Goombaw
The second half against UT was the best half Bama has played since the 2021 SECCG. 27-0 against a solid team.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:23 pm to Goombaw
I know your views are slanted - usually against anything Bama, but you can’t seriously call a 28-7 game “barely scraping by”. I guess you think the Bama fan base is comprised of nothing but morons.
Clemson is the one who scraped by WF 17-12. That could have been another loss.
As for the OT losses, think of the several “skin of their teeth” wins of Clemson over mediocre-to-bad teams in their good years: 2 vs Syracuse, Troy with Watson, NC State, etc.
Clemson is the one who scraped by WF 17-12. That could have been another loss.
As for the OT losses, think of the several “skin of their teeth” wins of Clemson over mediocre-to-bad teams in their good years: 2 vs Syracuse, Troy with Watson, NC State, etc.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:45 pm to Amarillo Tide
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Georgia has had a steady diet of creampuffs and has done OK but not great. Pretty sure if they played Bama's schedule, they'd have lost at least one and probably 2 games.
Which two teams would UGA lose to?
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:14 pm to Goombaw
Dabo has fallen fast these last few years. His disdain for the portal, NIL, struggling to develop two 5 star QB’s, and UGA’s ascension under Kirby won’t help going forward.
Around this time five years ago he looked poised to possibly challenge Saban’s number of championships. Now that seems laughable.
It damn sure isn’t far from the penthouse to the outhouse in coaching,
Around this time five years ago he looked poised to possibly challenge Saban’s number of championships. Now that seems laughable.
It damn sure isn’t far from the penthouse to the outhouse in coaching,
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:14 pm to Goombaw
When looking at advanced stats, we're far closer to UGA than Clemson.
It's not even really debatable
FEI
UGA: 9th
Bama: 11th
Clemson: 23rd
SP+
UGA: 2nd
Bama: 3rd
Clemson: 19th
F+
UGA: 3rd
Bama: 5th
Clemson: 20th
Bonus:
SAGARIN
Bama: 3rd
UGA: 4th
Clemson: 20th
ELO Rankings
UGA: 4th
Bama: 5th
Clemson: 36th
It's not even really debatable
FEI
UGA: 9th
Bama: 11th
Clemson: 23rd
SP+
UGA: 2nd
Bama: 3rd
Clemson: 19th
F+
UGA: 3rd
Bama: 5th
Clemson: 20th
Bonus:
SAGARIN
Bama: 3rd
UGA: 4th
Clemson: 20th
ELO Rankings
UGA: 4th
Bama: 5th
Clemson: 36th
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:39 pm to tattoo
I’m not sure who you’re replying to??
I’m not negative against Alabama and never said anything about “barely scraping by” anyone, lol.
I’m not negative against Alabama and never said anything about “barely scraping by” anyone, lol.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:31 pm to Goombaw
It wasn’t you, the poster’s name is in the header.
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I'm wrong: I was responding to UhOhOreo, not you. I just replied to the wrong post. Sorry about that.
EDIT:
I'm wrong: I was responding to UhOhOreo, not you. I just replied to the wrong post. Sorry about that.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 11:05 am
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