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SEC reaction to Wash - Oregon to Big 10
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:08 pm
I know the SEC has said they are happy with the 16 team setup. Will the Big 10 adding Oregon and Washington put any pressure on the SEC to reconsider?
I'm only curious. I don't have a preference either way.
I'm only curious. I don't have a preference either way.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:12 pm to NebraskaExPat
I think they’ll respond and will go after the next cluster of teams on their wish list-probably would include FSU and Clemson. Maybe NC State , not sure who else fits that profile. VA Tech ?
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:12 pm to NebraskaExPat
SEC doesn't let B1G force them to do anything
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:20 pm to NebraskaExPat
Expanding would only water down the SEC. It is stupid to allow the conference to keep getting bigger...hell 12 teams is too much IMO
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:21 pm to NebraskaExPat
No need now. But probably yes if BIG keeps going.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:21 pm to NebraskaExPat
Why does the SEC have to react?
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:21 pm to NebraskaExPat
No point in expanding unless new teams add to the revenue pie.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:24 pm to NebraskaExPat
B1G is overplaying their hand and going to end up busting. Eventually this expansion shite will equate to diminishing returns.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:27 pm to NebraskaExPat
The SEC will make geographically coherent expansion to keep up with the Joneses. We know FSU wants out, I think that is the smoke on where SEC goes.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:32 pm to JeffLebowski
BIG 10 has plenty of money to play with right now, and their new additions don't get a full share. They are playing the long game. Their next media deal will be massive.
The SEC can't expand. ESPN owns SEC and ACC. They aren't going to pay $60 million for FSU in the SEC when they already own it for $30 million. And that goes for Clemson and everyone else in the ACC.
The SEC can't expand. ESPN owns SEC and ACC. They aren't going to pay $60 million for FSU in the SEC when they already own it for $30 million. And that goes for Clemson and everyone else in the ACC.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:35 pm to JeffLebowski
We'd only take the FSU's (to my dismay) and Clemson's of the world. The top tiers of a conference. Otherwise, no, we're not going to expand just to expand.
Looking at the Big 10 now, there are several tiers as far as value:
1st tier
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
USC
2nd tier
Wisconsin
Oregon
UCLA
Nebraska
3rd tier
Purdue
Minnesota
Indiana
Illinois
Northwestern
Washington
Maryland
Iowa
Michigan State
4th tier
Rutgers
The ACC looks like this:
1st tier
FSU
Clemson
2nd tier
Miami
UNC
Duke
3rd tier
NC State
Duke
Virginia
Virginia Tech
4th tier
Pitt
Louisville
Wake Forest
Boston College
Georgia Tech
Definitely some diminishing returns if we choose to expand with ACC teams.
Looking at the Big 10 now, there are several tiers as far as value:
1st tier
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
USC
2nd tier
Wisconsin
Oregon
UCLA
Nebraska
3rd tier
Purdue
Minnesota
Indiana
Illinois
Northwestern
Washington
Maryland
Iowa
Michigan State
4th tier
Rutgers
The ACC looks like this:
1st tier
FSU
Clemson
2nd tier
Miami
UNC
Duke
3rd tier
NC State
Duke
Virginia
Virginia Tech
4th tier
Pitt
Louisville
Wake Forest
Boston College
Georgia Tech
Definitely some diminishing returns if we choose to expand with ACC teams.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:36 pm to surgicalvenom
But what if FSU finds 7 partners and nukes the ACC?
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:55 pm to bayou85
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SEC doesn't let B1G force them to do anything
Sankey is proactive, not reactive. And while I might not agree with everything he does, he is THE best commission going today and it's not even close. He is head and shoulders above any of the others and they all know it.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:57 pm to NebraskaExPat
The SEC will react.
You may think not, they're too good, too.
But, I think they will.
They'll start with ACC teams
You may think not, they're too good, too.
But, I think they will.
They'll start with ACC teams
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:58 pm to NebraskaExPat
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I know the SEC has said they are happy with the 16 team setup. Will the Big 10 adding Oregon and Washington put any pressure on the SEC to reconsider?
I don't think so. Any schools we'd want, presuming we'd want any, would be in the ACC where the legal issues are a lot thornier.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:01 pm to Drydock
Let's say that's an option. Yes FSU and Clemson find a home. But can anyone else guarantee that the other schools get a media deal better than what they are getting now? What network (ESPN would be off the table), would pay for an ACC leftover conference minus FSU and Clemson? 3 maybe 4 teams would vote to leave, but I don't think they get 7.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:02 pm to bayou85
I'm sure ESPN would cut a deal and let FSU and Clemson or others out of their grant of rights to join SEC, the league they have a long term deal with.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:03 pm to Iron Balls McGinty
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This all started back in the summer of 2010 when Texas attempted to bring a half dozen schools with them to the Pac-12. Nebraska and Colorado said "see ya" after that debacle and A&M followed a year later.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:06 pm to RollTide1987
This, plus when Texas started the Longhorn Network and didn't include anyone from their conference in their deal despite needing teams like A&M and Oklahoma to sustain their own network
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