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So what do we do coaching wise?
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:19 am
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:19 am
I know it seems soon to talk about this but my heart has been broken all morning over the Leach news and I just want to think about something different.
We have no AD. Do we let the interim AD do a big coaching search? Do we hire an AD first and let him do it? That’s question number 1.
Question 2. Who could we realistically get at this point that would be decent?
Some say promote our DC Arnett to HC for a year and reassess. Now he has proven to be a great DC but is only 36 years old with only 4 years as a coordinator. There’s a lot a head coach does that would be a big step for him with that little experience. Also you’d have to give him at 3-4 year contract. The 1 year idea would devastate recruiting. This is a high risk/high reward type hire. He would need to hire 2 good coordinators and once again, who is available?
If we go looking for a coach who is available?
Joe Judge - former Giants head coach, current QB coach at New England. Didn’t do great at the Giants but doesn’t mean much. He played at MSU and was a graduate assistant there. Could be a solid hire with NFL offensive experience that could do something with most of our offensive production returning, and NFL offense isn’t much different than the air raid. If Arnett would stay as DC I could see this working.
Who else could be a potential hire? I saw Kingsbury mentioned on the CC board but I’m not sure about that.
We have no AD. Do we let the interim AD do a big coaching search? Do we hire an AD first and let him do it? That’s question number 1.
Question 2. Who could we realistically get at this point that would be decent?
Some say promote our DC Arnett to HC for a year and reassess. Now he has proven to be a great DC but is only 36 years old with only 4 years as a coordinator. There’s a lot a head coach does that would be a big step for him with that little experience. Also you’d have to give him at 3-4 year contract. The 1 year idea would devastate recruiting. This is a high risk/high reward type hire. He would need to hire 2 good coordinators and once again, who is available?
If we go looking for a coach who is available?
Joe Judge - former Giants head coach, current QB coach at New England. Didn’t do great at the Giants but doesn’t mean much. He played at MSU and was a graduate assistant there. Could be a solid hire with NFL offensive experience that could do something with most of our offensive production returning, and NFL offense isn’t much different than the air raid. If Arnett would stay as DC I could see this working.
Who else could be a potential hire? I saw Kingsbury mentioned on the CC board but I’m not sure about that.
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:20 am to deltaland
Coaching Changes Board is suggesting Kliff.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:21 am to finchmeister08
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Coaching Changes Board is suggesting Kliff.
Just take me with coach leach.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:21 am to deltaland
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Didn’t do great at the Giants but doesn’t mean much
Came into a bad situation.
Ben McAdoo and Pat Shurmur were big busts too.
I think the Giants canned their GM too after they fired Judge.
I think he could be a viable option, given his previous HC experience.
Might not work out, but could do worse.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:22 am to deltaland
Pete Golding and Bill O'Brien
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:22 am to deltaland
I would go after Elko. What he has done to duke is amazing. Complete transformation of the culture.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:23 am to deltaland
Arnett. Don't over think this.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:23 am to deltaland
I think roll with Arnett for 2023 and then let the new AD reassess.
This isn't like a Mike Price scandal that takes him down. These players just had heir head coach die. They need some stability, and keeping Arnett and the rest of the coaching staff will do just that.
It may be a one year deal like the John L. Smith year at Arky, or Arnett may show something and end up being a real up and coming coach and you get him from the beginning.
This isn't like a Mike Price scandal that takes him down. These players just had heir head coach die. They need some stability, and keeping Arnett and the rest of the coaching staff will do just that.
It may be a one year deal like the John L. Smith year at Arky, or Arnett may show something and end up being a real up and coming coach and you get him from the beginning.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:24 am to AUCE05
Agreed. Arnett is the guy now.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:24 am to finchmeister08
Kliff Kingsbury has a losing record as a HC with Patrick Mahomes and Kyler Murray as his QBs. Why anyone would want to employ him in that capacity at this point is a mystery to me.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:27 am to Robot Santa
Dana H from Houston would be suggestion. Similar system and is affordable.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:27 am to deltaland
Maybe it best to tag an interim guy who can stabilize things, rather than trying to make a permanent hire right now?
This is all so sad. I cannot remember another circumstance similar to this one.
This is all so sad. I cannot remember another circumstance similar to this one.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:28 am to JayAg
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Dana H from Houston would be suggestion
That would actually be a solid hire
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:29 am to deltaland
Promoting from within (at least for a year) might be the best thing for the locker room, and would probably be the fairest thing to the current coaching staff. If you hire an outsider right now, much of the current staff may lose their jobs because of something totally out of their control.
Might be best to have an interim head coach from the current staff for a year and then reevaluate after next season.
Might be best to have an interim head coach from the current staff for a year and then reevaluate after next season.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 10:32 am
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:29 am to Bama Bird
Dan Mullen is available…
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:29 am to deltaland
Y'all will re-hire Mullen.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:29 am to deltaland
Any State grads in coaching who would be willing to steady the ship for a year or two?
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:30 am to deltaland
Its Arnett. You announce it prior to the bowl game.
4 year contract at about $2.2-$2.5/year. Could be the best possible hire. I think he can retain staff and get a good Air Raid OC to let Rogers finish as college football's all time passing leader.
The Mississippi State OC job is very attractive with what we have coming back. I think we could pull in a big hire here.
4 year contract at about $2.2-$2.5/year. Could be the best possible hire. I think he can retain staff and get a good Air Raid OC to let Rogers finish as college football's all time passing leader.
The Mississippi State OC job is very attractive with what we have coming back. I think we could pull in a big hire here.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:30 am to Hailstate15
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Coaching Changes Board is suggesting Kliff. Just take me with coach leach.
This. I just look at Kliff and want to punch him in the face. I don’t see that being a good fit at MSU
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:31 am to deltaland
Roll with Arnett. Do another search later once things are more stable.
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