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re: 2022-2023 Football hot takes
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:35 am to CorchJay
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:35 am to CorchJay
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Recruiting! Depends on what he accomplishes off the field as much as on the field. If we finish around 12-15 in recruiting with holes everywhere on the roster and a graduating of the entire OL and can’t replace with highly rated OL that could potentially a couple come in and start day 1 he’s in trouble. Our top WR prospect is Karmello English. That’s not good enough to win in the SEC although the kid is a fine WR. In state DL class we are gonna have to fight off Bama, UGA, Clemson to get some of the scraps it’s looking like. If we sign only 3 or less in the top 10 in recruiting he’s in trouble. That is the hope. If his recruiting is just getting by there is no hope and will find himself out the door. With it looking like AU will be able to sign around 30ish players if we aren’t top 8 in the country this class will be considered a big let down again.
If we don't finish as you say at least 8-10 in recruiting this year tht will be 2 straight years of below our standard of recruiting and put us farther behind the top 5-6 in the SEC again.
Add that we haven't shown we do well in the portal or hve a strong NIL base yet, Harsin would have to be let go just on all those issues which all boils down to YOU HAVE TO RECRUIT AND BRING IT TOP PLAYERS TO COMPETE.
He will have to be let go if he shows he still can't recruit.
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:02 pm to Scoper
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we start the season 5-0 and everyone starts talking 2004 national title for a week. we finish our regular 7-5 to 9-3 and then we find out if the booster hate harsin enough to pony up what his buyout over 20m i think
If we go 7-5 to 9-3 there will be no groundswell whatsoever for getting rid of Harsin and any booster effort will be met with even more fan opposition than this past saga
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:54 pm to Pettifogger
15-0 SHIP
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:54 pm to FearlessFreep
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My hot take: we will be a better team by the end of 2022 than we were at our peak in 2021. May not be reflected in our record, but it will be obvious.
This I agree with. QB play improves, probably make our receiving crew look better than we thought. Line has another year of experience and growing stronger. DL has some experienced BIG fellas coming in.
Things looking up.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:20 pm to trinidadtiger
I think we will go 7-5 but we will feel better about the program at the end of the season than we do at the moment.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:45 am to AuSteeler
I think Corch is half right. Harsin can right the ship with lights out recruiting…or through player development. Does anyone here actually believe Harsin was hired because of his recruiting prowess? He was hired because of his ability to identify those 3* Tubbs-type guys and develop them within a system… at a school like Boise State that HAS to operate that way. I’m not saying that I think he’ll do that nor am I saying that’s the easiest (or most exciting) way to do it, but that’s the rig we hitched our trailer to when he was hired. You’re fooling yourself if you think Harsin will magically turn into Kirby Smart all of a sudden.
And to Steeler, what exactly is our “standard” in regards to recruiting? If we’re talking a 5-12 finish but it’s a “Gus” class, then I couldn’t give sh!t about missing that mark. Gus’s inability to put together a high-functioning football team, while still pulling in highly ranked classes every year, almost single-handedly caused me to COMPLETELY stop following recruiting altogether. We’ve “recruited well” and brought in “top players” for years now and have a sh!t load of 8-5 to show for it.
All that to say, I think it’s a little narrow minded to pin the program’s potential success or failure solely on flashy recruiting. Harsin needs to get talented guys, develop them within a consistent and hard nosed system, and maybe let someone else call the plays on crucial 3rd and 4th downs. We should be praying he shows himself to be elite on the “Pittman” scale, not the “Kirby” scale.
And to Steeler, what exactly is our “standard” in regards to recruiting? If we’re talking a 5-12 finish but it’s a “Gus” class, then I couldn’t give sh!t about missing that mark. Gus’s inability to put together a high-functioning football team, while still pulling in highly ranked classes every year, almost single-handedly caused me to COMPLETELY stop following recruiting altogether. We’ve “recruited well” and brought in “top players” for years now and have a sh!t load of 8-5 to show for it.
All that to say, I think it’s a little narrow minded to pin the program’s potential success or failure solely on flashy recruiting. Harsin needs to get talented guys, develop them within a consistent and hard nosed system, and maybe let someone else call the plays on crucial 3rd and 4th downs. We should be praying he shows himself to be elite on the “Pittman” scale, not the “Kirby” scale.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:51 am to chimes
What separates Gus and Harsin is Gus at least stockpiled quality recruits at a few positions and that led to inflated recruiting rankings.
Harsin isn’t doing that while his recruiting classes are to this point no more well rounded. That can change but time will tell…
Harsin isn’t doing that while his recruiting classes are to this point no more well rounded. That can change but time will tell…
Posted on 6/3/22 at 8:21 am to jangalang
I don’t disagree, but honestly I’d rather be 8-5 without all the wasted talent laying around than 8-5 with 10-3 talent . It’s just as humiliating but much less infuriating.
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 11:09 am
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:07 am to chimes
I would like to chimes in on this topic but I will hold my thoughts for now.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:10 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Chimes loves him some Mia Khalifa.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:24 pm to chimes
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And to Steeler, what exactly is our “standard” in regards to recruiting? If we’re talking a 5-12 finish but it’s a “Gus” class, then I couldn’t give sh!t about missing that mark. Gus’s inability to put together a high-functioning football team, while still pulling in highly ranked classes every year, almost single-handedly caused me to COMPLETELY stop following recruiting altogether. We’ve “recruited well” and brought in “top players” for years now and have a sh!t load of 8-5 to show for it.
We both agree Gus w his poor OL recruiting, his inability to develop a HS Qb, tweaking his offense late to eventually have no offensive identity while still pulling in top 15 classes.
But if Harsin is an improvement in his offense, qb development, culture he still HAS to bring in that 5-15 recruiting classes. Period.
Referring back to Gus was never mentioned by me. I’m talking recruiting ranking history where we had some really good ones but the results in the past didn’t reflect that success.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:31 pm to AUveritas
I truly only have cold takes :(
But here's a hot take wrapped in a cold take:
Auburn's season and recruiting is bad enough that, coupled with an economic and stock market rebound in 2023, Auburn boosters start throwing money around like Wayne Hall's back on staff.
But here's a hot take wrapped in a cold take:
Auburn's season and recruiting is bad enough that, coupled with an economic and stock market rebound in 2023, Auburn boosters start throwing money around like Wayne Hall's back on staff.
This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 6/5/22 at 12:13 am to AUveritas
Auburn Defensive line is the biggest and strongest in the nation the Defensive backs will produce it's usual first rounder and the offensive line is full of grown men with more starts than any team in the nation the best back in the SEC with a solid kicking game this sounds like a national contender
Posted on 6/5/22 at 1:58 am to anhedonia
We don’t have a clue what we have on the DL outside of Colby Wooden. He’s all-sec type. Hall has a chance to have a really good year. Same with Eku but has to be done first. Same with the DBs. Have some good players but also some unknowns. Safety can be an issue with an injury. We need more interceptions if we are going to be a primary zone team. We also have no proven replacement for Zakoby but have some bodies that can do it but can they do it as good as he did?
I trust the teaching and instruction of the coaches but it has to be done on the field.
I trust the teaching and instruction of the coaches but it has to be done on the field.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 9:08 pm to CorchJay
I'm not super optimistic on win totals this year but I gotta give it to Harsin though. After a shite show of a winter where he was stabbed in the back, he's got the team vibe turn toward to right direction. The guys on that team are bought in and they are busting their arse in the off-season from what I can see. I don't think we have a ton of talent to work with but I like our grit in close games if it comes to that. I think he's weeded out the bad seeds, there are no prima donnas, he's had a spring to install and rep the system and he's brought in some key pieces at wide receiver through the portal which was sorely lacking. I'm encouraged that this team will play for each other if nothing else at least, and they won't quit like they did down the stretch last year. If he lands some OL and DL in recruiting we could see a slow-burn turn around. I think 7-5 with some solid games and a team that plays together will be encouraging.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 11:20 pm to TailbackU
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winter where he was stabbed in the back
There was a legit investigation into allegations. There was no stabbing in the back. It's the society we live in now. Harsin did his part, the university did their part and the allegations found to be false. We all got spun up as usual by our click bait masters.
Regardless of all that you don't coach long at Auburn with losing records. So we will just have to see how it turns out in the end. I can honestly admit I thought Harsin was to hard headed to make the changes to reach out to the community, the school, the region, the south and do some of the things he probably doesn't like doing but he's doing them. That's a plus for him in my opinion.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:38 am to CorchJay
quote:I tend to give him a pass on this stuff for last year - kind of like how it takes a Freshman a year to “get used to the speed of the game”.
I can honestly admit I thought Harsin was to hard headed to make the changes to reach out to the community, the school, the region, the south and do some of the things he probably doesn't like doing but he's doing them. That's a plus for him in my opinion.
I actually wish he’d brought in his coordinators at the beginning, rather than screw around with Bobo and Mason. Sink or swim with the SpudBoiz from the get-go.
Like you said, he seems to be addressing some of our concerns, at least superficially. And you’re right, we’ll see how it all plays out.
Still pissed at him for not going for 2 in the first OT in the IB.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:15 am to CorchJay
I agree with you. He has changed to the good. It was a wake up call for him.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 11:45 am to AUveritas
We beat UGA by 14 and only have 1 loss by the EOY.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 11:48 am to AUveritas
We won't have to suffer through Bo Nix attempting to play out of position
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