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Which SEC coaches have a history of doing less with more?
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:53 am
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:53 am
It seems that Kirby is entering this territory and Jimbo has definitely squandered some talent.
Kelly has had good classes, but he’s also made the playoffs a few times, so I’m not sure he belongs yet.
Who am I missing?
Kelly has had good classes, but he’s also made the playoffs a few times, so I’m not sure he belongs yet.
Who am I missing?
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Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:55 am to Eli Goldfinger
Mark fricking Richt
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:56 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Who am I missing?
Almost all the other coaches besides Stoops are early into their current gig.
Not enough track record
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:56 am to Eli Goldfinger
Every Georgia coach since Dooley. Every Florida coach since Urban.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:00 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Kelly has had good classes, but he’s also made the playoffs a few times
Kirby has made the playoffs twice, which is exactly the same as Kelly. And Kirby actually won a playoff game.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:08 am to Eli Goldfinger
Les(s) Miles
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:11 am to Eli Goldfinger
Matt Luke. Had a team with 16 NFL players on it, plus one potential Heisman candidate, and couldn't coach it to a .500 finish.
John L. Smith also had a season like that at Arkansas after the Petrino disaster.
John L. Smith also had a season like that at Arkansas after the Petrino disaster.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 9:13 am
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:12 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Which SEC coaches have a history of doing less with more?
It seems that Kirby is entering this territory
interesting. It seems to me that in the short time kirby has bene a head coach his results have been commensurate with the talent he has.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:15 am to Knowshon5Dolla
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Kirby has made the playoffs twice, which is exactly the same as Kelly. And Kirby actually won a playoff game.
Bit of a difference.
Seems like Kirby has usually had top 3 level talent where Kelly has usually been in the #10-#12 range.
ETA Not a dig at Kirby, I think he's currently the second best coach in the conference.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 9:18 am
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:27 am to SidewalkTiger
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I think he's currently the second best coach in the conference
Obviously, there's quite a gap between one and two, but I agree.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:34 am to SidewalkTiger
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Seems like Kirby has usually had top 3 level talent where Kelly has usually been in the #10-#12 range.
But this is the responsibility of the head coach. It’s his job to go get talent.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:38 am to ugastudent
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But this is the responsibility of the head coach. It’s his job to go get talent.
I agree but in the case of BK, I think there are certain challenges to recruiting at a place like Notre Dame.
He certainly has no excuse going forward though.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:42 am to Eli Goldfinger
Muschamp.
Look at the sheer number of high-level NFL players he had, at Florida and at SC.
Look at the sheer number of high-level NFL players he had, at Florida and at SC.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 11:08 am to ugastudent
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But this is the responsibility of the head coach. It’s his job to go get talent.
And if you can't recruit at ND....Whether we agree with it or not...or like it or not...
They get the exposure(Exclusive TV contract), media hype and have a ton of history to use as a recruiting tool.
They also have an easier path to the playoffs evidenced by no championship game and no conference schedule. What little conference schedule they do play is with the ACC.
Let's not pretend that ND is a difficult gig.
I also think we can look at their performance in the playoffs to back up what I am saying.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/16/21 at 11:09 am to Eli Goldfinger
Joe Moorhead. Guy had the #1 defense in the country and went 8-4
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 11:10 am
Posted on 12/16/21 at 11:20 am to Murph4HOF
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Mark fricking Richt
He already said Kirby, they are the same person after all.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 11:35 am to Eli Goldfinger
Nutt in 2006 and 2007. Could argue 98, 99, 02 and 03.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 11:36 am to Eli Goldfinger
Spurrier. He owned the SEC but only had 1 national championship. Bobby Bowden owned him and would beat him like a rented mule.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 11:55 am to Eli Goldfinger
Les Miles has to be in the discussion.
He has 1 NC and another appearance in the title game, but there were quite a few seasons where he should have at least made the SECCG and ended up with a head scratcher that knocked him out of it. And that was when Alabama was down and hadn't hired Nick Saban yet.
He has 1 NC and another appearance in the title game, but there were quite a few seasons where he should have at least made the SECCG and ended up with a head scratcher that knocked him out of it. And that was when Alabama was down and hadn't hired Nick Saban yet.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 11:56 am to panhandlebama
I know I'm older than most but Doug Barfield, that was at Auburn, had two of the best running backs in the nation in 1979. Cribbs and Brooks. And had a line backer that was All-American in Freddy Smith. And some others I cannot remember.
yet was third in conference
yet was third in conference
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